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FoldYourLife 06-02-2006 09:20 PM

109: QQ on 3rd hand
 
PartyPoker $109 Regular Tournament, Big Blind is t40 (10 handed) Converter on pregopoker.com

UTG (t2000)
UTG+1 (t2000)
MP1 (t2400)
Hero (t2000)
MP3 (t1960)
CO+1 (t2000)
CO (t1840)
Button (t2020)
SB (t1780)
BB (t2000)

Preflop: Hero is in MP2 with Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]
UTG calls t40, <font color="red">UTG+1 raises to t180</font>, <font color="gray">MP1 folds</font>, Hero calls t180, <font color="gray">MP3 folds</font>, <font color="gray">CO+1 folds</font>, <font color="gray">CO folds</font>, <font color="gray">Button folds</font>, <font color="gray">SB folds</font>, <font color="gray">BB folds</font>, UTG calls t140

Flop: (t600) 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (3 players)
UTG checks, <font color="red">UTG+1 bets t150</font>, <font color="red">Hero raises to t500</font>, <font color="gray">UTG folds</font>, <font color="red">UTG+1 raises to t1670 (All-in)</font>, <font color="gray">Hero folds</font>

Critique of PF and post-flop play appreciated. I haven't had time to play much lately, so I'm feeling very rusty. 3rd hand of the SNG, so no reads on PF raiser. I have seen UTG limper, decent but nothing spectacular. Does anybody raise PF? Who smooth calls bet on flop, and who calls the all in?

supercomputer 06-02-2006 09:41 PM

Re: 109: QQ on 3rd hand
 
I'd probably fold. His PF raise is supspiciously high. Calling on the flop is okay too. Lots of scare cards, but that might be a good thing if you can get to a showdown without putting too much of your stack in.

FoldYourLife 06-02-2006 10:10 PM

Re: 109: QQ on 3rd hand
 
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I'd probably fold. His PF raise is supspiciously high. Calling on the flop is okay too. Lots of scare cards, but that might be a good thing if you can get to a showdown without putting too much of your stack in.

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At what point are you folding?

supercomputer 06-02-2006 11:35 PM

Re: 109: QQ on 3rd hand
 
To the all-in.

b33nz 06-03-2006 07:52 PM

Re: 109: QQ on 3rd hand
 
i think i like a call here (to the all in)... the way he played it it feels like he has 88-JJ more than KK/AA. i would push the flop because you should still expect to get called by 88+ and the board is pretty draw heavy with the straights and overcards you have to fear.

Kn0wClue 06-04-2006 01:40 AM

Re: 109: QQ on 3rd hand
 
i would call. flop bet seems like a feeler bet. would think he woulda bet much more if he had AA KK because of the way the board is. could very well be 88 or 99.

OHFreak 06-04-2006 01:58 AM

Re: 109: QQ on 3rd hand
 
Without a read can you deduce anything about what the PF raise size means from the "average" $109er?

At the $6.50s and $11s it means "scared to get callers" much more often than it means "building a pot w/a monster."

Kn0wClue 06-04-2006 02:04 AM

Re: 109: QQ on 3rd hand
 
i think his pf raise is standard with 1 limper already. he could have AA or KK possibly but it would have been a bad flop bet on his part if so. what did he have this hand?

FoldYourLife 06-04-2006 03:19 PM

Re: 109: QQ on 3rd hand
 
Thanks for the responses. The way that he played the hand tells me that he really loves his hand. Whether that's because he has AA or 88, I don't know, since I don't have a read on the guy. He just showed too much strength for me to call here w/ QQ. He bet PF from second position, led flop, and came over the top of my raise. I don't think calling is bad, but I thought folding was the better play.

Any other higher buy-in guys have an opinion here?


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