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craigthedeac 05-17-2006 12:48 PM

$33 KK facing a cr
 
Villain is pretty active 33/14/2. Is this an all-in or a fold?

PartyPoker $33 Regular Tournament, Big Blind is t60 (8 handed) Converter on pregopoker.com

UTG (t2640)
UTG+1 (t1495)
MP1 (t1540)
MP2 (t1850)
Hero (t5670)
Button (t2515)
SB (t2510)
BB (t1780)

Preflop: Hero is in CO with K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]
UTG calls t60, <font color="gray">UTG+1 folds</font>, <font color="gray">MP1 folds</font>, <font color="gray">MP2 folds</font>, <font color="red">Hero raises to t195</font>, <font color="gray">Button folds</font>, <font color="gray">SB folds</font>, <font color="gray">BB folds</font>, UTG calls t135

Flop: (t480) 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 players)
UTG checks, <font color="red">Hero bets t255</font>, <font color="red">UTG raises to t700</font>

Hero ???

alwardc4 05-17-2006 12:51 PM

Re: $33 KK facing a cr
 
I like calling then push/raise a blank turn. I think a reraise-push on the flop is reasonable too. Villain is too loose to give him much credit here.

DaN_05 05-17-2006 12:51 PM

Re: $33 KK facing a cr
 
PF I make it t220.

Here your flop bet is too weak. Make it closer to t350. With your stack still healthy if we lose this I shove over the top. Especially as your flop bet is so weak it looks like a scared cont. bet UTG could now have a wider range, he could have a smaller pair, flush draw etc... I get it ALL-IN here.

HCR 05-17-2006 12:52 PM

Re: $33 KK facing a cr
 
Probably just call and see the turn. I call him down with an non heart or no ace.

craigthedeac 05-17-2006 12:56 PM

Re: $33 KK facing a cr
 
Yeesh. Could someone explain why we want to see a turn? If he is drawing we are giving him more cards, why not punish him with a push instead of calling him? Calling down seems dangerous considering it's pretty probable he will keep betting and we will end up all-in anyways.

JSH06 05-17-2006 12:58 PM

Re: $33 KK facing a cr
 
Make it at least 240 preflop. Make a bet around the size of the pot on the flop. You must make bigger bets on flushing flops like this. As played, I shove the flop to his check-raise.

JSH06 05-17-2006 01:02 PM

Re: $33 KK facing a cr
 
[ QUOTE ]
Yeesh. Could someone explain why we want to see a turn? If he is drawing we are giving him more cards, why not punish him with a push instead of calling him? Calling down seems dangerous considering it's pretty probable he will keep betting and we will end up all-in anyways.

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The idea is because he probably has a heart in his hand. I could see calling the flop &amp; shoving the turn but I hate the idea of calling down here. There's already so much money in the pot that you'll get it in by the river anyway so you should make him pay to draw.

craigthedeac 05-17-2006 01:04 PM

Re: $33 KK facing a cr
 
I don't follow you. You're putting him on one heart. If we push he can't correctly call on the flop, if he does, we should be happy to take the advantage he is giving us.

alwardc4 05-17-2006 01:06 PM

Re: $33 KK facing a cr
 
[ QUOTE ]
I don't follow you. You're putting him on one heart. If we push he can't correctly call on the flop, if he does, we should be happy to take the advantage he is giving us.

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If you push, he can't incorrectly push a blank turn.

alwardc4 05-17-2006 01:09 PM

Re: $33 KK facing a cr
 
Also, I would make your pf raise 200. No, check that. Make it 210. No, maybe 180. I guess I'm nitpicking. Anything around 180 to 250 is probably fine. Whatever.


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