(109) bubble donking against aggro sb.. 88
 

***** Hand History for Game 3365420789 *****
NL Texas Hold'em $100 Buy-in + $9 Entry Fee Trny:19168245 Level:7 Blinds(150/300) - Friday, January 13, 18:29:06 EDT 2006
Table Table 68251 (Real Money)
Seat 7 is the button
Total number of players : 4
Seat 2: pattiernan ( $6145 )
Seat 3: Raptor_517 ( $1535 )
Seat 6: shv99 ( $1305 )
Seat 7: bigchips1000 ( $1015 )
Trny:19168245 Level:7
Blinds(150/300)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to Raptor_517 [ 8h 8c ]
shv99 folds.
bigchips1000 folds.
pattiernan raises [450].
Raptor_517 ???

haha i thought this wasnt too tough a choice.. DID I THINK WRONG?!?!?!???? vote away.. holla

Re: (109) bubble donking against aggro sb.. 88
 

Grinding the 109s? I'll prolly be doing that soon. Blackjack and MTTs are rigged in the Bahamas.

Re: (109) bubble donking against aggro sb.. 88
 

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Grinding the 109s? I'll prolly be doing that soon. Blackjack and MTTs are rigged in the Bahamas.

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hellz yea. -22k and running worse than ever in my life = me not playing step 5s and step 4 highers anymore. yay for 109s and mtts. holla

Re: (109) bubble donking against aggro sb.. 88
 

I would shove here. You probably have some folding equity even though you shouldnt and your hand is way ahead of his range. Also there is no real short stack and no guarentees folding will help you money.

The fact that the aggro bigstack is on your right and isnt moving anytime soon is also important.

Re: (109) bubble donking against aggro sb.. 88
 

easy push, IMO

Re: (109) bubble donking against aggro sb.. 88
 

I clicked fold I meant push

Re: (109) bubble donking against aggro sb.. 88
 

Well, I say push, but your polls are usually to show how incredibly wrong/stupid I am.

Re: (109) bubble donking against aggro sb.. 88
 

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I would shove here. You probably have some folding equity even though you shouldnt and your hand is way ahead of his range. Also there is no real short stack and no guarentees folding will help you money.

The fact that the aggro bigstack is on your right and isnt moving anytime soon is also important.

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What if the aggro big stack pushed all in? Do you still call?

Re: (109) bubble donking against aggro sb.. 88
 

I'd shove even if he had pushed. If he's agressive there has to be a huge chance he has at least one card under 8.

Re: (109) bubble donking against aggro sb.. 88
 

It depends just how aggro he has been and what his raise means and if you think you have any FE.

For what it's worth, I voted "fold" before doing ICM because I don't trust his weird little raise, plus you are ahead of the other shorties and the blinds are coming their way, plus 88 isn't all that great a hand.

ICM says .305 call and win, .201 fold. 88 against any two is 69%. So you are ever so slightly +$EV against any two. If he has any raising standards at all here, you are -$EV, unless you think you have FE.

So, overall, I guess you just have to go with your read at the table.

P.S. It's not that easy after all [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]