Stuper, TT overpair, tough spot
 

Seat 1: gatorhader (2225 in chips)
Seat 2: BALBOA (2490 in chips)
Seat 3: ALV1N1SM (1195 in chips)
Seat 4: jclark9001 (3190 in chips)
Seat 5: MSUcougar (1965 in chips)
Seat 6: abacus LOX (1865 in chips)
Seat 8: SJMIN (1320 in chips)
Seat 9: haxxories (1510 in chips)
SJMIN: posts small blind 15
haxxories: posts big blind 30
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to MSUcougar [Ts Tc]
gatorhader: raises 60 to 90
BALBOA: folds
ALV1N1SM: folds
jclark9001: folds
MSUcougar: calls 90
abacus LOX: folds
SJMIN: calls 75
haxxories: calls 60
*** FLOP *** [5h 2h 4d] (POT 360)
SJMIN: checks
haxxories: checks
gatorhader: bets 210
MSUcougar: ??? (I have 1875 chips at this point)

further actions to come after I get a few replies...

Re: Stuper, TT overpair, tough spot
 

How's raise to 500 and fold to a push sound?

Re: Stuper, TT overpair, tough spot
 

you're at my dise table, gl

Re: Stuper, TT overpair, tough spot
 

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How's raise to 500 and fold to a push sound?

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It sounds awful.

Oh, I usually call here, and if I raise- wow I am never folding to a push from the pfr. If a guy behind you shoves.... then maybe.

Re: Stuper, TT overpair, tough spot
 

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How's raise to 500 and fold to a push sound?

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Sounds like an expensive way to get information on a middle pair against 3 opponents on a coordinated board, that called the UTG for set value in the first place and didnt flop a set.

Re: Stuper, TT overpair, tough spot
 

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How's raise to 500 and fold to a push sound?

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MSUcougar: raises 265 to 475
SJMIN: folds
haxxories: folds
gatorhader: thinks a long time and calls 265
*** TURN *** [5h 2h 4d] [7d] (POT now 1310)
gatorhader: checks
MSUcougar: ??? (1400 behind)

Basically, at this point I put him on 88-QQ... possibly AA-KK or set but that just seems very unlikely now.

What's the play on this turn after he checks?

Re: Stuper, TT overpair, tough spot
 

You don't like him having high hearts here? There is no bet that you aren't forced to call an all in from him, so I'd hope to see the showdown cheap from here.

Re: Stuper, TT overpair, tough spot
 

You got a safe turn card, and you have to bet. Checking and having villian bet into you on a scary river card would suck.

Any reasonable bet will pot commit you. I think a push is in order.

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You don't like him having high hearts here? There is no bet that you aren't forced to call an all in from him, so I'd hope to see the showdown cheap from here.

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I think it's fairly unlikely he flat called me OOP with a FD here... but ya I suppose that could be included in his range.

Re: Stuper, TT overpair, tough spot
 

Since you got this far, I agree that a push is in order here since a bet will otherwise pot commit you anyway. His last two actions showed weakness on a scary board. I would anticipate that he can't call an all in at this point, at the very least you're putting him to the test...especially since this is the Stuper, where people are quite capable of making laydowns.