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Agreed. If I'd realised my statement would be under such scrutiny I'd have caveatted it a great deal more.

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Fair enough. I mean, I don't even disagree with you. I just think that if a socialist made an equivalently sloppy statement on this board he would get swarmed, so what goes around comes around.

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Hey I'm more than happy for people to pick me up when I stumble if it's in a constructive manner, thanks for watching my back. Did my explanatory post make more sense?

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Yes it's +EV. Inefficient use of resources due to diminishing returns otherwise. (Obviously the distribution has to be competently handled, though.)

tomdemaine's solution would do a better job of fixing this particular problem. Since it's not gonna happen, however, we should be giving alms one way or another.

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Who's going to post that it's more valuable to have people starving than it is to provide people with adequate nutrition? It's a loaded question and it doesn't address who actually provides the aid. The implication is the U.S. only provides the aid since there is a reference to the U.S. spending on the Iraq war. Also as you imply, it doesn't ask how to best maximize the value of the money being spent. It's a dumb question.

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Who's going to post that it's more valuable to have people starving than it is to provide people with adequate nutrition? It's a loaded question and it doesn't address who actually provides the aid. The implication is the U.S. only provides the aid since there is a reference to the U.S. spending on the Iraq war. Also as you imply, it doesn't ask how to best maximize the value of the money being spent. It's a dumb question.

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Who's going to post that it's more valuable to have people starving than it is to provide people with adequate nutrition? It's a loaded question and it doesn't address who actually provides the aid. The implication is the U.S. only provides the aid since there is a reference to the U.S. spending on the Iraq war. Also as you imply, it doesn't ask how to best maximize the value of the money being spent. It's a dumb question.

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The US government is there to preserve the power of the opulent minority as dictated by the constitution. In this sense it is +ev for government to act liberally in order to contain the public; redistribute wealth etc... but with very calculated limits as to sustain inequality and a passive subordinate populace without (purposefully) approaching anything near a breakdown of the class system or egalitarianism.

So its a tough question. In order to NOT help the poor, you have to, to a calculated degree, help them(!)

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what made you say this?