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lennytheduck 01-26-2006 08:58 PM

The Old Min-CheckRaise
 
Stars 2/4 6 max

Hero is playing very laggy, about 40% VPIP. I have been raising a ton and as a result am getting crazy action on my big hands.

Villain in the hand falls in love with hands he shouldn't; I have seen him get it all in with QJ on a Q high board with no redraw.

Villain has ~$450 and I cover.

Hero is dealt A [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]A [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] in the CO

Folded to Hero, <font color="red"> </font> Hero raises to $12, <font color="red"> </font> <font color="black"> </font> Button folds, SB folds, Villain calls $8.

FLOP ($26): J [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]7 [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]6 [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]

Villain checks, <font color="red"> </font> Hero bets $24, Villain raises to $48,

Hero...??

aba20 01-26-2006 09:06 PM

Re: The Old Min-CheckRaise
 
Based on your read I reraise pot now to get the money in against AJ-QJ or whatever else he may have. You don't want another diamond or an overcard coming and scaring him.

lennytheduck 01-26-2006 09:11 PM

Re: The Old Min-CheckRaise
 
What kind of strength does the flop min-CR usually signal to everyone?

aba20 01-26-2006 09:17 PM

Re: The Old Min-CheckRaise
 
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What kind of strength does the flop min-CR usually signal to everyone?

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Very read dependant. I have found can be everything from bottom pair to the nuts. If you watch villian carefully you can usually come up with what types of hands they are doing this with. Regardless you have a monster and should be looking to get the money in.

iceman5 01-26-2006 09:19 PM

Re: The Old Min-CheckRaise
 
I think you may very well need another diamond. I just call.

Big_Jim 01-26-2006 09:31 PM

Re: The Old Min-CheckRaise
 
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Hero is playing very laggy, about 40% VPIP. I have been raising a ton and as a result am getting crazy action on my big hands.

Villain in the hand falls in love with hands he shouldn't; I have seen him get it all in with QJ on a Q high board with no redraw.


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Go all in.

lennytheduck 01-26-2006 09:40 PM

Re: The Old Min-CheckRaise
 
One pair is a monster?

Big_Jim 01-26-2006 09:46 PM

Re: The Old Min-CheckRaise
 
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One pair is a monster?

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You've gotta be kidding me.

You have an overpair and the nut flush draw.

You have 40% equity against a set, and almost 33% against a flush draw.

All other hands you have crushed, and he's definitely capable of calling with worse.

Big_Jim 01-26-2006 09:47 PM

Re: The Old Min-CheckRaise
 
Did you read player description?

Calling here sucks ass.

Lurke&#1071; 01-26-2006 09:58 PM

Re: The Old Min-CheckRaise
 
Why so small pre-flop raise?

lennytheduck 01-26-2006 10:15 PM

Re: The Old Min-CheckRaise
 
I am not disagreeing with you, Jim. I was simply questioning his description of the strength of my hand.

The reason is that I usually see this min-CR more often on the turn, and usually after a firing a second barrel in position. I've found that it usually means a stronger holding on the flop when the raiser is OOP.

I do agreeing with pushing though, which is what I did. Is there really another play?

QueenFortune 01-26-2006 10:27 PM

Re: The Old Min-CheckRaise
 
Love it, now push.

lennytheduck 01-26-2006 10:54 PM

Re: The Old Min-CheckRaise
 
I'm the first one in the pot. 3x has been my standard raise in this situation and will continue to be.

iceman5 01-26-2006 11:30 PM

Re: The Old Min-CheckRaise
 
If youre convinced theres no other play, I dont see the need to post the hand. I have no problem with pushing though. Ive done it in that exact spot lots of times.

So what happened?

thedustbustr 01-26-2006 11:59 PM

Re: The Old Min-CheckRaise
 
villain probably flopped a flush and hero didn't improve.

lennytheduck 01-27-2006 09:54 AM

Re: The Old Min-CheckRaise
 
I moved in, he called instantly, the turn and river blanked and he showed the K [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]9 [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].

Nice call bustr.

snappo 01-27-2006 10:08 AM

Re: The Old Min-CheckRaise
 
Don't be too results-oriented. He happened to have the flush AND you happened to not suck out. That's the worst-case scenario.

yvesaint 01-27-2006 10:27 AM

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Nice call bustr.

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well it was sort of obv cause you posted this thread...

thedustbustr 01-27-2006 11:16 AM

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Nice call bustr.

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well it was sort of obv cause you posted this thread...

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