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Tokyo!! 01-01-2007 08:29 PM

2/4 NL, Top 2 facing river raise
 
No reads, only like 5 hands in. I couldn't figure out what I beat, except a bluff, which I figured was unlikely due to the context of the board (I'm playing like it hit me). Standard or bad fold? I have like $200 after betting river.

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $4 BB (4 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

Button ($191.30)
Hero ($399.40)
BB ($544.15)
UTG ($200)

Preflop: Hero is SB with A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $16</font>, BB calls $12.

Flop: ($32) Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $22</font>, BB calls $22.

Turn: ($76) A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $48</font>, BB calls $48.

River: ($172) 5[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $112</font>, <font color="#CC3333">BB raises to $458.15</font>, Hero folds.

Final Pot: $742.15

jkkkk 01-01-2007 08:33 PM

Re: 2/4 NL, Top 2 facing river raise
 
ya good fold

luckychewy 01-01-2007 08:33 PM

Re: 2/4 NL, Top 2 facing river raise
 
dunno how u can consider folding this.

tradingman123 01-01-2007 08:50 PM

Re: 2/4 NL, Top 2 facing river raise
 
Bet more on the turn, bet more on the flop. Given this line, I cant see a hand with a 5 in it making it all the way to the river so and the pot is way too big to fold for 200 more.

Evergrey 01-01-2007 08:54 PM

Re: 2/4 NL, Top 2 facing river raise
 
Good fold imo

but u misplayed flop and turn

bet more

recallme 01-01-2007 08:54 PM

Re: 2/4 NL, Top 2 facing river raise
 
Do you fear the 5?
If yes, then C/C river. As played i would not fold it.

EgoSlasher 01-01-2007 09:27 PM

Re: 2/4 NL, Top 2 facing river raise
 
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Good fold imo

but u misplayed flop and turn

bet more

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I think 2/3rds is fine, bet sizing is somewhat of a preference

Tokyo!! 01-01-2007 11:02 PM

Re: 2/4 NL, Top 2 facing river raise
 
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Do you fear the 5?
If yes, then C/C river. As played i would not fold it.

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c/c loses value against a Q, or an A. He'll check lots of stuff behind that I beat, might bet some things I beat, but I can't figure out what he raises with here that I beat.

Tokyo!! 01-01-2007 11:04 PM

Re: 2/4 NL, Top 2 facing river raise
 
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dunno how u can consider folding this.

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What raises the river that I beat? I bet every street and it certainly seems like I have an ace. There are no lesser 2 pair hands (except 45 which now beats us). The board is reasonably drawless, and people like to slowplay, 44 might be in his range here. I think it looks reasonably like 45/A5/44. What do I beat here besides a bluff? I dont think AK/AJ raise this river.

Tokyo!! 01-01-2007 11:06 PM

Re: 2/4 NL, Top 2 facing river raise
 
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Bet more on the turn, bet more on the flop. Given this line, I cant see a hand with a 5 in it making it all the way to the river so and the pot is way too big to fold for 200 more.

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I also I agree I should've bet more on turn. I think flop is ok. I usually bet 24 on the flop, but I bet 22 cause I was using the betpot function from overcards, and there was 2 less cause I was in SB.


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