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FoxwoodsFiend 10-17-2007 08:03 PM

Observed 25/50 Hand: What\'s Your Minimum to Stack off With?
 
6-way pot limped preflop.
Flop (300): 3 [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 4 [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 7 [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]
Checked to the tightest player at the table, who bets 200. The small blind requires some explanation. He's a donk, but he's not playing crazy. He's one of those guys who thinks that playing tight is enough to make him not that bad so he generally plays postflop without much of a clue other than "don't call it off with nothing." He's also clearly very wealthy. In sum, he's an old touristy guy who hasn't shown anything special.

Anyway, he check/raises to 900 and tight guy calls.

Turn (2100): 4 [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]
Please note in case you're not paying attention that this puts up a straight flush.
The old guy checks and the tight guy bets 1600, old guy calls.
River (5300): 7 [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]
Old guy takes a stack of 20k and sets it to the side as he plays with another stack of cash with about 6k in it. He flips the stack over again and again and again and then sets it down and takes the 20k stack and puts it in the middle with authority but not overly strongly. It is 17k to the tight guy.

In this situation, if you're the tight guy, what do you call with?

traxamillion 10-17-2007 08:16 PM

Re: Observed 25/50 Hand: What\'s Your Minimum to Stack off With?
 
44

AAismyfriend 10-17-2007 08:18 PM

Re: Observed 25/50 Hand: What\'s Your Minimum to Stack off With?
 
I think the old guy has quads, or a straight flush. Nothing else makes sense. I don't think I'd pay him off with less than quad 4s here. I also don't see how either of these guys could show up with a lone 4 or 7, and 33 is obviously an easy fold.

luegofuego 10-17-2007 08:20 PM

Re: Observed 25/50 Hand: What\'s Your Minimum to Stack off With?
 
oh wow... nfi

Ship Ship McGipp 10-17-2007 08:20 PM

Re: Observed 25/50 Hand: What\'s Your Minimum to Stack off With?
 
i would not be able to fold 44, but i would almost never call with a 7 i don't think.

this is the way the guy you described would play what he percieves to be the nuts.

luegofuego 10-17-2007 08:21 PM

Re: Observed 25/50 Hand: What\'s Your Minimum to Stack off With?
 
folding bottom quads would be beautiful.

FoxwoodsFiend 10-17-2007 08:25 PM

Re: Observed 25/50 Hand: What\'s Your Minimum to Stack off With?
 
FWIW, I think I fold quad 4s here but was wondering if anybody else thinks they could actually do it.

AAismyfriend 10-17-2007 08:25 PM

Re: Observed 25/50 Hand: What\'s Your Minimum to Stack off With?
 
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folding bottom quads would be beautiful.

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king_of_drafts 10-17-2007 08:31 PM

Re: Observed 25/50 Hand: What\'s Your Minimum to Stack off With?
 
no fkin way I fold quads, I call 7x+ (although if tighty even got to the river with 74 I think thats pretty bad)

and my excuse is that it's live; I think an incorrect read on an this opponent is more likely to occur than a ridiculous cooler like quads/sf over bottom quads

FoxwoodsFiend 10-17-2007 08:34 PM

Re: Observed 25/50 Hand: What\'s Your Minimum to Stack off With?
 
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although if tighty even got to the river with 74 I think thats pretty bad)

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why? think he should 3bet the flop?


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