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timex 11-08-2007 06:35 PM

Step 6 to Macau- I dont know ICM very well
 
Top 4 all get the same $4500 prize

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t100 (9 handed) Poker Stars Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

saw flop|<font color="#C00000">saw showdown</font>

<font color="#C00000">BB (t3305)</font>
UTG (t3020)
UTG+1 (t2360)
MP1 (t4390)
MP2 (t2965)
MP3 (t2355)
CO (t2845)
Button (t2825)
<font color="#C00000">Hero (t2935)</font>

Preflop: Hero is SB with A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">7 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to t300</font>, BB calls t200.

Flop: (t600) T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">BB bets t300</font>, Hero calls t300.

Turn: (t1200) Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
Hero checks, BB checks.

River: (t1200) 2[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets t600</font>, BB calls t600.

Final Pot: t2400

Not a very interesting hand, I just have a bunch of quetions.

If he shoves PF, do you call? If you fold, what range do you call with?

If I bet the flop, and he shoves, do you call?
Should I just like shove the turn in case he has a set or flush draw?

If 3000 chips are worth $2000, what are 6000 chips worth if I eliminate a player?

kleath 11-08-2007 06:59 PM

Re: Step 6 to Macau- I dont know ICM very well
 
6000 chips are worth about $3250 assuming its the 1st hand and bvb, as for your hand I would probably fold to a shove preflop(call like JJ+ usually, very opponent dependent though), fold and feel gross to a flop shove, aggro that turn.

Ditch Digger 11-08-2007 07:53 PM

Re: Step 6 to Macau- I dont know ICM very well
 
BVB there's no way I'm folding pf. I'd play the flop the same. Definitely bet the turn. 2 pair, a set, and flush draws will almost always call a turn bet but will rarely bet the turn.

Gramps 11-08-2007 07:57 PM

Re: Step 6 to Macau- I dont know ICM very well
 
OT - I was all fired up to play in a HK/Macau tournament if there ever was a big one out there, Stars finally gets it set up...on Thanksgiving weekend. Guess they don't want any Americans coming out and spoiling the party [img]/images/graemlins/mad.gif[/img]

kleath 11-08-2007 08:23 PM

Re: Step 6 to Macau- I dont know ICM very well
 
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BVB there's no way I'm folding pf. I'd play the flop the same. Definitely bet the turn. 2 pair, a set, and flush draws will almost always call a turn bet but will rarely bet the turn.

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Wow for some reason I didnt think it was bvb, I change my prev statement to dont fold pre

eurythmech 11-08-2007 08:46 PM

Re: Step 6 to Macau- I dont know ICM very well
 
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6000 chips are worth about $3250 assuming its the 1st hand and bvb, as for your hand I would probably fold to a shove preflop(call like JJ+ usually, very opponent dependent though), fold and feel gross to a flop shove, aggro that turn.

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Wow for some reason I didnt think it was bvb, I change my prev statement to dont fold pre

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Hmmm [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

kleath 11-08-2007 08:47 PM

Re: Step 6 to Macau- I dont know ICM very well
 
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6000 chips are worth about $3250 assuming its the 1st hand and bvb, as for your hand I would probably fold to a shove preflop(call like JJ+ usually, very opponent dependent though), fold and feel gross to a flop shove, aggro that turn.

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Wow for some reason I didnt think it was bvb, I change my prev statement to dont fold pre

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Hmmm [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

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The bvb comment in the first post was just to make the example as simplistic as possible aka no SB overlay. I should lay off the plant.

Pudge714 11-08-2007 11:04 PM

Re: Step 6 to Macau- I dont know ICM very well
 
If he shoves pre call.
If he shoves the flop fold.
I don't mind betting or checking turn, but after thinking more I like betting 600 because people will check back non K hands and he doesn't have complete air that much.


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