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ikestoys 06-28-2007 12:24 AM

wtf raise?
 
No Limit Holdem Ring game
Blinds: $5/$10
4 players
Converter

Stack sizes:
ikestoys: $5836
Button: $1815
SB: $1005
BB: $3393

Pre-flop: (4 players) ikestoys is UTG with 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]
<font color="#cc0000">ikestoys raises to $35</font>, Button calls, 2 folds.

Flop: 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] ($85, 2 players)
<font color="#cc0000">ikestoys bets $65</font>, Button calls.

Turn: 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] ($215, 2 players)
<font color="#cc0000">ikestoys bets $165</font>, Button calls.

River: 3[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] ($545, 2 players)
<font color="#cc0000">ikestoys bets $320</font>, <font color="#cc0000">Button raises to $640</font>,

Villain here is FU_BEGGAR, he seems to know who I am...
(sorry in advance, not trying to be mean)
Villain is the definition of a TAGfish 20/10/2. He floats like it is his job. I didn't c/r the turn b/c I wanted to keep weak aces around.

My image is pretty crazy, like 40/35 prolly.

Anyways, push/call/fold?

catcher193 06-28-2007 12:29 AM

Re: wtf raise?
 
I convince myself they can make this raise with AK,
then I get really giddy when they flip it over,
then the pot goes to them and im like

a;ouihs;kwhga;kwrhg;weg
only to realize that they have the nut flush.

RiverHebrew2 06-28-2007 12:33 AM

Re: wtf raise?
 
I think you're beat, but I can't see folding this river neway. I'd say he was floating, picked up backdoor diamonds on the turn, and rivered it. If you think you can fold him off a flush (with which 1/2 of his stack is in I doubt it), then shove. I pay this off all day, but I honestly don't see what he can have that takes this line that you beat. I don't think this is a full house at all; I'd say most likely it wuz floating or Axdd that made a flush or a mediocre 6.

Ship Ship McGipp 06-28-2007 12:34 AM

Re: wtf raise?
 
clal, berate, move on

ikestoys 06-28-2007 12:35 AM

Re: wtf raise?
 
[ QUOTE ]
clal, berate, move on

[/ QUOTE ]

lol def my std line here, especially the beratement

Syntec87 06-28-2007 12:36 AM

Re: wtf raise?
 
isnt this an auto call? feel like with that image and those odds you have to pay off anything he hit

ikestoys 06-28-2007 12:41 AM

Re: wtf raise?
 
[ QUOTE ]
isnt this an auto call? feel like with that image and those odds you have to pay off anything he hit

[/ QUOTE ]

it should be noted my image is def aggressive, not idiotic. when you are playing like this, players typically react in one of two ways.

1.) They tighten up and try to get paid when they hit (I make money of these players slowly but surely. They mostly don't even realize that I've shaved 4-5 buyins off of them
2.) Play back against you, these players are fun and leads to things like the aejones theorem. I make money off of these players in big chunks

I'm not sure what type this guy is

creedofhubris 06-28-2007 01:02 AM

Re: wtf raise?
 
If you're calling it's because you expect a chop some % of the time. I'm not sure it's often enough, this is an idiot with a flush or a boat.

ikestoys 06-28-2007 01:15 AM

Re: wtf raise?
 
don't i chop against like two hands exactly?

bigbabyjesus 06-28-2007 02:17 AM

Re: wtf raise?
 
when i'm confused like this I call.. though it seems like he backdoored his ass into the nut flush


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