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jk3a 10-16-2007 01:53 PM

3bet Pots, So Much FUN
 
I just sat, HUD display not up yet, but I have a note that says "called 3bet oop with 87s" Does your play change without the note?

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HAND #1
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Poker Stars, $1/$2 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 6 Players
LegoPoker Hand History Converter

MP: $286.30
CO: $199
BTN: $77
Hero (SB): $198
BB: $200
UTG: $110.55

Pre-Flop: Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] dealt to Hero (SB)
2 folds, <font color="red">CO raises to $8</font>, BTN folds, <font color="red">Hero raises to $28</font>, BB folds, CO calls $20

Flop: ($58) J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 3[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">Hero bets $44</font>, CO calls $44

Turn: ($146) Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 Players)



Villain is 27/23 thru 10 hands.

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HAND #2
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Poker Stars, $1/$2 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 6 Players
LegoPoker Hand History Converter

MP: $30.80
CO: $253.80
BTN: $37
Hero (SB): $314.35
BB: $227.25
UTG: $275.20

Pre-Flop: K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] dealt to Hero (SB)
<font color="red">UTG raises to $6</font>, 3 folds, <font color="red">Hero raises to $24</font>, BB folds, UTG calls $18

Flop: ($50) 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">Hero bets $43</font>, UTG calls $43

Turn: ($136) J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 Players)

holland3r 10-16-2007 02:00 PM

Re: 3bet Pots, So Much FUN
 
OK hand 1, I think your flop bet is a little on the big side -- I usually bet more like $38 here, as it folds out everything that $44 would, saves you money when you're bluffing, and still makes it easy to get all the $ in when you have a monster.

On the turn I'm either going to open shove or c/rai depending on my recent history with the villain.

Hand 2 I just open shove the turn.

theplux 10-16-2007 02:03 PM

Re: 3bet Pots, So Much FUN
 
so his 3bet range is pretty vague. First hand I'm willing to check turn and I'm not going to like it if he fires.

Second hand I 3bet to a little bit more PF since you guys have close to 150bb. I'm going all the way there. If he fired the turn on first hand after my check i'm willing to c/r the turn here. Else I'll 2nd barrel and push pretty much any river.

holland3r 10-16-2007 03:18 PM

Re: 3bet Pots, So Much FUN
 
Yeah I didn't see you were deep in hand 2 -- do what the guy above said.

graydot 10-16-2007 04:42 PM

Re: 3bet Pots, So Much FUN
 
I check both hands on the turn to see what villian is doing.

phantom_lord 10-16-2007 06:07 PM

Re: 3bet Pots, So Much FUN
 
1. Shove

2. 3bet a little more, 90+ on the turn, shove river.

MoP_86 10-16-2007 06:13 PM

Re: 3bet Pots, So Much FUN
 
is everyone 3-betting preflop in hand one?

Nick Royale 10-16-2007 06:14 PM

Re: 3bet Pots, So Much FUN
 
[ QUOTE ]
is everyone 3-betting preflop in hand one?

[/ QUOTE ]
That's pretty standard.

Nick Royale 10-16-2007 06:16 PM

Re: 3bet Pots, So Much FUN
 
1. I usually c-bet a bit less. Shove turn.

2. Really tough spot. I think a fd, combo-draw, Jx and QQ are all likely. Sucks being slightly deep too.

TDouble 10-16-2007 07:04 PM

Re: 3bet Pots, So Much FUN
 
Pot is getting pretty big in hand 1 and given brief history I would go ahead and commit myself on the turn.

I have been thinking a lot about hand 2 and I guess I bet/throw up if raised. It'd be soooo easy for him to shove all sorts of hands on the turn too. Meh, checkin feels terrible.


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