HollywoodPoker sells e-mails
 

Hello,

Sick of spammers, I singed up for Google Apps, created dozens of new e-mail addresses and gave each poker room a unique address. In the Hollywood Poker address I have received spam from bonnuswhores.com (with two n's) and macpokergames.com.

I have checked the whois for this domains and they are anonymous. What do you suggest?

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Reply to the spam mails. Try to weasle out of them where they are located. Then go there and kill them. Cut off their heads and send them to HollywoodPoker as a warning.

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The account i used to sign up at Hollywood about 6-10 months ago does not get any spam amazingly.

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If you're really serious about stopping these spammers you can tell the poker rooms (affiliate department) they promote. They'll stop paying them for the referrals if you can prove they are spamming!

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Reply to the spam mails. Try to weasle out of them where they are located. Then go there and kill them. Cut off their heads and send them to HollywoodPoker as a warning.


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Yes, but that might get you into real trouble - annoying murder trial etc.. Better to cut off the head of a prized thoroughbred and stick it into bed with the head of HP. Same effect and you won't get in as much trouble if you get caught. Badabing Badaboom.

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To really test your theory you need to use names that can't be formed using 1 or more words in the dictionary.

Next time use something like 8292xut713843HWpoker@gmail.com

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ive got these same emails to both of my email addresses that i had registered with Hollywood and not only the bonnuswhores one - im getting at least 3 different emails all promoting the same Ongame site every month.

i assumed everyone with a Hollywood account was getting them [img]/images/graemlins/confused.gif[/img]

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I also have a gmail account that I only used for Hollywood poker and are getting loads of spam for tower affiliates.

And only this kind of spam. So surely Hollywood is a seller of email addresses.

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It has to be the affiliate otherwise more people would be bitching, like i said I don't get any spam in that account.

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My address is pretty difficult to guess. Besides, it is not a Gmail account, it is an address from my own domain, and this domain does not even have a website.

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Do the affiliates have access from their Hollywood Poker control panel to the players e-mail addresses? Because I never gave this address to my affiliate.

If they do, we can check whether we signed up through the same affiliate.

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Hi All,

At Hollywood Poker we have a very strict privacy policy and would never sell your email address. We respect each and every player's privacy and would never condone the selling of email addresses.

HP Don

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Hi All,

At Hollywood Poker we have a very strict privacy policy and would never sell your email address. We respect each and every player's privacy and would never condone the selling of email addresses.

HP Don

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Can you please answer my question: Do the affiliates have access to the e-mail addresses of the players that have signed up through them?

PS: More spam. This time from wheretoplayonline.com

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Ups, I just noticed that this last spam message is addressed to me, I mean to my real name. Do the affiliates have access to the name of the players?

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Hi All,

At Hollywood Poker we have a very strict privacy policy and would never sell your email address. We respect each and every player's privacy and would never condone the selling of email addresses.

HP Don

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Can you please answer my question: Do the affiliates have access to the e-mail addresses of the players that have signed up through them?

PS: More spam. This time from wheretoplayonline.com

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Affiliates dont ever have access to any personal info like email addresses, names, etc. unless you give it to them on their own affiliate based site.

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Ups, I just noticed that this last spam message is addressed to me, I mean to my real name. Do the affiliates have access to the name of the players?

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every email i get is addressed to me personally and it even tells me that i signed up to the newsletter on a specific date, which obv, i never did.

too coincidental that i only starting getting them into my second email account when i linked that email to Hollywood.

in summary, HW guy, imo ur lying [img]/images/graemlins/mad.gif[/img]

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I'm also getting these emails promotion Tower Gaming bonus.

I made a completly new email and signed up for HWP about 10 days ago. And so far I've been receiving one email every 1-2 day, each one from a different domain. The email also contains my full name.

I'm 100% sure I havn't entred my email anywhere else than at hollywoodpoker.

I contacted live support and they told me I was signed through bonuswhores.com, yea I visited the site and maybe clicked the link from there but I never entered any details there. And from what I know bonuswhores is a serious site and they don't need to promote through spam. But anyway, how would they get my email and full name?

According to live support the affiliates cant see either your email adress or full name.

So the only explanation I have for this is that HWP either sell our emails/names, share their database with someone, an employee mines their database and to use for spam (far-fetched?)

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Adresses where the emails have come from in chronical order
@macpokergames.com
@bonnuswhores.com (note the extra n, not bonuswhores.com)
@wheretoplayonline.com
@onmydomain.com
@ecampaignsolutions.net

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So the only explanation I have for this is that HWP either sell our emails/names, share their database with someone, an employee mines their database and to use for spam (far-fetched?)

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Adresses where the emails have come from in chronical order
@macpokergames.com
@bonnuswhores.com (note the extra n, not bonuswhores.com)
@wheretoplayonline.com
@onmydomain.com
@ecampaignsolutions.net

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Yep, I have already received spam from all these domains.

Well, it is time for me to withdraw all my money from Hollywood Poker and shut down this e-mail address.

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I too receive these emails from my Hollywood address. I own a domain and use emails like Hollywood@mydomain.com and that is where they are going. HP guy, either you are selling them or people are stealing them.

IMO Tower is pretty rogue to begin with. All of this affiliate spam and associations with sites cyber squatting long term legit sites. Not the type of people I would be doing business with.

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something like kkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkk@gmail.com would work too

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I have been getting those annoying emails for a while now to the same address that I have signed up with at Hollywood.
I use this address for more than one site so I could never pinpoint the leak. Looks like HP is the prime suspect.
I have been very selective in choosing what I use this address for and it has been 100% spam free for years. Then TowerGaming came along...
Does anyone else get any viagra emails? Those were added to the mix recently.

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IMO Tower is pretty rogue to begin with. All of this affiliate spam and associations with sites cyber squatting long term legit sites. Not the type of people I would be doing business with.

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despite their very attractive bonus offers over the past few months(both before and after the points change), i refuse to sign up to them for precisely the above reasons.

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When you look at the headers in the mails they all come from ns1.mypremiumhosting.com (64.239.3.185).

If you go to www.mypremiumhosting.com you see that a apache server is set up on the domain and it's no hosting company, probably a private server.

Whois on the domain (http://www.whois.net/whois_new.cgi?d...ng&amp;tld=com)
doesn't tell you that much either.

Domain was created last year -&gt; Creation Date: 19-sep-2006
The domain is registred on www.godaddy.com
Registrant &amp; Contact is hidden with www.domainsbyproxy.com service

Maybe a email would make godaddy revoke their domain, but probably they don't even care. But still, how the [censored] did they get get our emails and names in the first place? Sent an email to HWP linking to this thread and I was told they would forward it to the right department and then contact me

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Any chance Hollywood owns Tower?

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Any chance Hollywood owns Tower?

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Dunno about that can't find any information about HWP or towergaming company on their website.

Received response from HWP also...
Their solution to this is that I should email the spammer and ask where they did get my information? right...


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Thank you for contacting Hollywood Poker support.

I'm sorry to hear that you encountered problem regarding your information is leaked to a third party but I will have to stress to you that we, Hollywoodpoker.com takes players security and privacy very seriously and would never sell player information. We have no idea how it happened in the first place but it is best that you refer to the source as how they received your information regarding this matter.

Again, I'm sorry that you feel Hollywoodpoker.com is liable in this matter but we're not. I hope you will be able to contact the source regarding this issue to clarify the situation.

Should you have any further queries, do not hesitate to contact us.

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Any chance Hollywood owns Tower?

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Hummm. I just found out that their IP location is the same, both sites are hosted by Potected.ca in Montreal.

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Any chance Hollywood owns Tower?

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Hummm. I just found out that their IP location is the same, both sites are hosted by Potected.ca in Montreal.

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And notice all of their denials are only related to selling our email addresses. They never say that THEY are not sending the emails themselves.

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Any chance Hollywood owns Tower?

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Hummm. I just found out that their IP location is the same, both sites are hosted by Potected.ca in Montreal.

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Interesting. Where is the HP rep now?

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Any chance Hollywood owns Tower?

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Hummm. I just found out that their IP location is the same, both sites are hosted by Potected.ca in Montreal.

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Interesting. Where is the HP rep now?

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He won't come back because his job is to deflect and distract. There's nothing he can do to defend this thread that he hasn't already done. Better to ignore then acknowledge.

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Not very important, but I made a little mistake. The company that hosts both sites is Protected.ca, not Potected.ca as I wrote.

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Any chance Hollywood owns Tower?

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Hummm. I just found out that their IP location is the same, both sites are hosted by Potected.ca in Montreal.

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And notice all of their denials are only related to selling our email addresses. They never say that THEY are not sending the emails themselves.

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a reply i got from HW last week when i emailed them asking if they could explain:

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Hi Spamee,

Thank you for contacting Hollywood Poker support.

We do not know why you are receiving promotional emails from Tower
Gaming. We would like to assure you that Tower Gaming and Hollywood Poker
are two different sites with two different promotional team.

Kindly contact Tower Gaming and ask them to remove you from their
mailing list.

Should you have any further queries, do not hesitate to contact us.


Regards,
Alan

Customer Loyalty Specialist

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The Hollywood Poker rep is busy taking a "tower" in the a$$.

-Brendan

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has anyone else who emailed Hollywood about these spam emails noticed that they have now stopped?

i havent been getting any more Tower spam since i emailed Hollywood wondering what the hell the story was with the both of them.

nothing really interesting but thought id give a bump in case others wanted to do the same.

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I signed up to HWP through Bonuswhores and I got the same spam for a while as well, although I haven't received any new ones the last few days. I hadn't ever made the Hollywood-Tower connection myself, but it does look really suspicious. I'm adamantly refusing any business on Tower since they're using spam to advertise, and now I have to think about quitting play on HWP as well.

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tis like this, i joined HP ages ago and i get spam including BonnusWhores. But the free browser add-in, McAfee SiteAdvisor, gives them a green tick meaning "We tested this site and didn't find any significant problems". Could be they've cleaned up their act, or may be worth reporting your issue to McAfee SiteAdvisor so they can look into it. If they discover it to be spammy it will then show up to everybody who does searches using the McAfee SiteAdvisor add-in with compatable search engines (such as google), as well as on all HP site pages for anybody using McAfee SiteAdvisor.

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I didn't get any spam messages since the moment I unsubscribed from HP.

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I didn't get any spam messages since the moment I unsubscribed from HP.

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OMG

I signed up using my email address on my phone which is actually an email address for text messages so when I get the message its actually forwarded from a middle processing unit which spits out the email from a 0000000 email address so no way to respond back to and have dealt with this for about 2 years.

I just get about 20 messages a day and in spurts of about 5 at a time.

VERRY ANNOYING I emailed them and the thing is its not just from one company but rather many company's of the same nature. It comes all jarbled up most of the time as the format is meant for 144 characters only (text message) So it comes broken up and can't get a reply email address to unsubscribe or threaten with bodily harm.

No doubt in my mind it was hollywood because nobody else had the email address NOBODY! [censored] HOLLYWOOD POKER!! And again the email address is totaly unique and special for sending text messages overseas. Normal text are just the number. An international text is something like 8455555555@Mobilecellular.cellular.com just to give an example of how unique the email address is and never got emails before hollywood

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Hi All,

At Hollywood Poker we have a very strict privacy policy and would never sell your email address. We respect each and every player's privacy and would never condone the selling of email addresses.

HP Don

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Ok then you have a rougue employee that stole the email address of thousands and thousands of players or firewall breach. Cause There is no doubt in my mind that HP is responsible.

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same story here..

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Never had this problem myself. Interesting, though.