Two Plus Two Newer Archives

Two Plus Two Newer Archives (http://archives1.twoplustwo.com/index.php)
-   High Stakes (http://archives1.twoplustwo.com/forumdisplay.php?f=21)
-   -   flush facing 2 allins, 10/20 (http://archives1.twoplustwo.com/showthread.php?t=468344)

jsnipes28 08-03-2007 10:43 AM

flush facing 2 allins, 10/20
 
Standard fold?

Full Tilt Poker - No Limit Hold'em Cash Game - $10/$20 Blinds - 5 Players - (LegoPoker Hand History Converter)

what a donk: $370.00
HAAANH: $2,000.00
gamble4you: $3,032.00
SamH133: $7,956.75
Hero: $5,737.50

Preflop: Hero is dealt 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (5 Players)
<font color="red">gamble4you raises to $60.00</font>, SamH133 folds, Hero calls $60.00, what a donk folds, HAAANH calls $40.00

Flop: ($190) A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (3 Players)
HAAANH checks, <font color="red">gamble4you bets $140.00</font>, Hero calls $140.00, <font color="red">HAAANH raises all-in to $1,940.00</font>, gamble4you calls $1,800.00, Hero folds

GreatKerblini 08-03-2007 11:24 AM

Re: flush facing 2 allins, 10/20
 
How fast did HAAANH call? Could be facing sets, top-2, and smaller flushes. I would push this.

king_of_drafts 08-03-2007 11:39 AM

Re: flush facing 2 allins, 10/20
 
If you are somehow ahead, which I sincerely doubt, I'm pretty sure you have to dodge every heart and board-pair in the deck. Plus, the fact that G4U just called is pretty suspicious.

Edit: not THAT suspicious actually...also G4U was being really spewy today so I guess this is a bit closer...

dtan05 08-03-2007 11:39 AM

Re: flush facing 2 allins, 10/20
 
HAAANH didn't call, he CRAId

AcidKnight 08-03-2007 12:41 PM

Re: flush facing 2 allins, 10/20
 
I think a fold is in order as well. It's a little too optimistic to think that you're ahead too often here. As KoD pointed out, even when you are, you gotta dodge half the deck to win. If you're behind, you're always drawing dead.

mike0292 08-03-2007 01:16 PM

Re: flush facing 2 allins, 10/20
 
I think HAANH will have a set at minimum here, although he could have a lower made flush, and G4Us cold call is verry suspicious. I think a fold would be prudent.

TheWorstPlayer 08-03-2007 01:22 PM

Re: flush facing 2 allins, 10/20
 
I would call just bec BB is a spewtard and KOD knows that.

creedofhubris 08-03-2007 01:39 PM

Re: flush facing 2 allins, 10/20
 
[ QUOTE ]
I would call just bec BB is a spewtard and KOD knows that.

[/ QUOTE ]

You know, the A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] and K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] being on the board, and the 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] in your hand, really cut down on the number of reasonable flushes out there. QJ, QT, Q8, JT, J8, T8 beat you, but 86, 85, 65, 64, 54, and 43 lose to you.

I also question whether HAANH would fastplay the queen-high flush here; his action is more consistent with a vulnerable hand or a big draw.

I like a pooosh.

Hobb 08-03-2007 01:46 PM

Re: flush facing 2 allins, 10/20
 

i don't like a call. really feels like gamble holds a flush. if hes holding say AsQh, would he fold to the c/r? (i know nothin abuot gamble4u). If he wouldn't, would he come over the top for ther est of the money?

at the same time i think it's close either way, and i don't hate a call, but i really feel a fold here at least the majority of the time.

Heyway 08-03-2007 01:55 PM

Re: flush facing 2 allins, 10/20
 
I think it's a marginal decision. You are probably ahead of HAAANH here, he's likely to have 44, a really small flush, maybe A4 or maybe Qh (KQ or somthing). I doudt he would push flop w/big flush instead of making a healthy raise. G4U has you beat here alot of the times, he would probably push AA, KK, AK and not just call although you cant be sure. He might also have AQ (Qh). Back to the decision, you're getting pretty good odds to call, if you think there's a good chance that you're infront since 2 guys have their money in there. If you're ahead, 7 hearts and a paired board is what you're looking to avoid unless you're up against 2 sets, then you're in fine shape. If you're behind you're dead. All in all a tough spot, I'm leaning towards push.


All times are GMT -4. The time now is 02:11 PM.

Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.11
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, vBulletin Solutions Inc.