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spliff 10-31-2007 01:48 PM

100NL, 4-bet allin with OESD, as respons to weak donk bet
 
I normally raise a weak lead/donk bet as a standard; i have no reads on Villian to make another play (expect a monster).

Poker Room skin
No Limit Holdem Ring game
Blinds: $0.50/$1
5 players
Converter

Stack sizes:
UTG: $186.65
HERO: $100.00
Button: $59.85
SB: $72.80
BB: $33.60

Pre-flop: (5 players) HERO is CO with J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]
UTG folds, <font color="#cc0000">HERO raises to $4</font>, Button folds, SB calls, BB folds.

Flop: K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] ($9, 2 players)
<font color="#cc0000">SB bets $2</font>, <font color="#cc0000">HERO raises to $8</font>, <font color="#cc0000">SB raises to $22</font>, <font color="#cc0000">HERO raises all-in $88</font>

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Villain donk bets 2 into 8 pot on flop!

I have FE vs. top pair, and Villain could be playing back with a marginal hand in this situation.

Suigin406 10-31-2007 01:52 PM

Re: 100NL, 4-bet allin with OESD, as respons to weak donk bet
 
ok i guess, y not just call flop raise to 22?? i like ur line on a raggy board to sell the overpair, but no so much on this one

Chaos_ult 10-31-2007 01:53 PM

Re: 100NL, 4-bet allin with OESD, as respons to weak donk bet
 
I think you're overestimating your fold equity

I don't think he's folding very often after he 3-bets the flop.

KCrow 10-31-2007 01:58 PM

Re: 100NL, 4-bet allin with OESD, as respons to weak donk bet
 
I think I fold to the 3bet......I agree with Chaos that you less FE than you think.

Calling's not even that good as the villain's not deep enough. If they were 100bb deep I'd call and re-evaluate on the turn.

Dire 10-31-2007 02:16 PM

Re: 100NL, 4-bet allin with OESD, as respons to weak donk bet
 
Shoving's no good. You have zero FE here and will be worse than a 2:1 dog in a pot without enough overlay to justify it. Calling the flop is fine. You have 8 outs and he's usually stacking on any turn.

Anycall 10-31-2007 03:08 PM

Re: 100NL, 4-bet allin with OESD, as respons to weak donk bet
 
once he 3bets the flop, I don't think we have a lot of FE, if any. I would call the small 3bet given that we are getting pretty good odds and we have position. we hit nuts on turn and stack him.

illuminati 10-31-2007 03:19 PM

Re: 100NL, 4-bet allin with OESD, as respons to weak donk bet
 
I call the 2 bucksors on the flop if he's going to be as retarded as to give immediate odds. He is never 3-betting to fold to a shove.

Esection 10-31-2007 03:28 PM

Re: 100NL, 4-bet allin with OESD, as respons to weak donk bet
 
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I raise the 2 bucksors on the flop if he's going to be as retarded as to give immediate odds. But if he 3bets i fold because He is never 3-betting to fold to a shove.

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gimmetheloot 10-31-2007 08:31 PM

Re: 100NL, 4-bet allin with OESD, as respons to weak donk bet
 
call his 3bet man. stack his KT

manupod 10-31-2007 08:32 PM

Re: 100NL, 4-bet allin with OESD, as respons to weak donk bet
 
raise to $15 the first time. Don't shove


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