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swope 04-20-2007 05:10 AM

So you think youre a degenerate? The bar is *raised*, broseph.
 
http://www.insidebayarea.com/localnews/ci_5706275

The lurid and insane saga of "poker pro" William Gustafik, from the perspective of his wife, who stabbed him to death the other day.

Banner points:

Daily regiment started with coffee + Ativan, followed quickly by lines of cocaine with a chaser of testosterone gel smeared on his thighs and injected into his arms.

He would then retire to his "office" to do cocaine in earnest while.. wait for it.. playing poker online!

The article is basically a review of a 10 page suicide email his wife sent out after murdering him. She sent it, then tried to fly in some Bay Area hotel room, and of course failed and ended up arrested.

Bon appetite!

feesjah 04-20-2007 05:24 AM

Re: So you think youre a degenerate? The bar is *raised*, broseph.
 
lol

the article: tl;dr

SmokeyRidesAgain 04-20-2007 05:25 AM

Re: So you think youre a degenerate? The bar is *raised*, broseph.
 
Please be Vig, please be Vig.

acidca 04-20-2007 05:56 AM

Re: So you think youre a degenerate? The bar is *raised*, broseph.
 
that is some sick [censored]

deaders 04-20-2007 06:10 AM

Re: So you think youre a degenerate? The bar is *raised*, broseph.
 
Wow, amazing read, absolutely insane.

uminchu 04-20-2007 06:11 AM

Re: So you think youre a degenerate? The bar is *raised*, broseph.
 
man swope your avatar is awesome

SmokeyRidesAgain 04-20-2007 06:19 AM

Re: So you think youre a degenerate? The bar is *raised*, broseph.
 
Having read it all, I think theres a reasonable (4 outs?) chance this Vig and Vigette.

Supwithbates 04-20-2007 06:22 AM

Re: So you think youre a degenerate? The bar is *raised*, broseph.
 
haha poker pros when will they learn
click your mouse lose your house

Python49 04-20-2007 07:54 AM

Re: So you think youre a degenerate? The bar is *raised*, broseph.
 
I love how she said that she gambled too but she would lose and then supported this by mentioning a 20k score at roulette.

Mrage 04-20-2007 07:57 AM

Re: So you think youre a degenerate? The bar is *raised*, broseph.
 
If you were 30 tabling 10NL for a living you'd do coke too

Rhand 04-20-2007 08:16 AM

Re: So you think youre a degenerate? The bar is *raised*, broseph.
 
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I love how she said that she gambled too but she would lose and then supported this by mentioning a 20k score at roulette.

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Thats cause there is a massive difference between a guy who gambles and and doesnt stop cause he is winning / not much down. And an other guy who is gambling losing a ton more then he can afford and doesnt stop. Seems pretty basic to understand this difference...

Subfallen 04-20-2007 08:55 AM

Re: So you think youre a degenerate? The bar is *raised*, broseph.
 
This is the best thing I have ever read, hands down. Thank you so much OP.

Chump Change 04-20-2007 09:21 AM

Re: So you think youre a degenerate? The bar is *raised*, broseph.
 
lol donkaments?

luckyjimm 04-20-2007 10:20 AM

Re: So you think youre a degenerate? The bar is *raised*, broseph.
 
Funny how she doesn't mention if she was doing coke/drinking much herself...

timw07 04-20-2007 10:25 AM

Re: So you think youre a degenerate? The bar is *raised*, broseph.
 
This made me realize I don't have a gambling problem, awesomse!

nubs 04-20-2007 10:44 AM

Re: So you think youre a degenerate? The bar is *raised*, broseph.
 
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Funny how she doesn't mention if she was doing coke/drinking much herself...

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She definitely mentions she was doing drugs to but she obviously doesn't highlight the fact.

The dude was in an episaode or two of Cash Poker btw.

otnemem 04-20-2007 10:55 AM

Re: So you think youre a degenerate? The bar is *raised*, broseph.
 
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Daily regiment started with coffee + Ativan, followed quickly by lines of cocaine with a chaser of testosterone gel smeared on his thighs and injected into his arms.

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This might be nitty, but why would you write this when in the article its obvious this isn't the case? He wasn't slapping testosterone on his thighs to prepare for a stint of online poker. It was obvious he was using some of those substances for his physical condition.

kewl_cph 04-20-2007 11:00 AM

Re: So you think youre a degenerate? The bar is *raised*, broseph.
 
RE:Cash Poker
Was he that buff guy who lost like $10-15k but "really learned alot" and "would definately return" (quoted freely from memory)?

I think he went broke with KT when he checkraised the turn all-in with top pair (tens?) and a flush draw against AA.

DING-DONG YO 04-20-2007 11:10 AM

Re: So you think youre a degenerate? The bar is *raised*, broseph.
 
sounds like the world is better off with this POS not in it anyway.

Stepping Stone 04-20-2007 11:20 AM

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sounds like online poker is less lucrative with this POS not in it anyway.

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fyp

DING-DONG YO 04-20-2007 11:34 AM

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sounds like online poker is less lucrative with this POS not in it anyway.

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fyp

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lol, yea that too. At least this gives some insight into where some of the high stakes fish come from.

nubs 04-20-2007 11:46 AM

Re: So you think youre a degenerate? The bar is *raised*, broseph.
 
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RE:Cash Poker
Was he that buff guy who lost like $10-15k but "really learned alot" and "would definately return" (quoted freely from memory)?

I think he went broke with KT when he checkraised the turn all-in with top pair (tens?) and a flush draw against AA.

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He checkraised w/ KT v QQ in the hand you are thining. And, LOL, I just pulled up the clip, in the post interview he said "It was a great tournament..."

FWIW i grew up in the town next to San Ramon, CA

MortenTA 04-20-2007 11:55 AM

Re: So you think youre a degenerate? The bar is *raised*, broseph.
 
what episode was he in?

Stepping Stone 04-20-2007 11:57 AM

Re: So you think youre a degenerate? The bar is *raised*, broseph.
 
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He checkraised w/ KT v QQ in the hand you are thining. And, LOL, I just pulled up the clip, in the post interview he said "It was a great tournament..."

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Linky?

nubs 04-20-2007 12:03 PM

Re: So you think youre a degenerate? The bar is *raised*, broseph.
 
The episode in question is #13 but I'm fairly sure he was in an earlier one as well.

Xiao, links to torrents are not allowed on 2+2.

SomethingClever 04-20-2007 12:17 PM

Re: So you think youre a degenerate? The bar is *raised*, broseph.
 
Normally I'd be more sensitive, but this guy sounds like such a jackass.

http://www.poster.net/kill-bill/kill...rs-5001152.jpg

swope 04-20-2007 04:06 PM

Re: So you think youre a degenerate? The bar is *raised*, broseph.
 
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Daily regiment started with coffee + Ativan, followed quickly by lines of cocaine with a chaser of testosterone gel smeared on his thighs and injected into his arms.

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This might be nitty, but why would you write this when in the article its obvious this isn't the case? He wasn't slapping testosterone on his thighs to prepare for a stint of online poker. It was obvious he was using some of those substances for his physical condition.

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i think youre mistaken actually; people who stop roiding need to take testosterone fairly constantly until their nuts recover.

youre right tho, she doesnt specifically indicate that this was part of his morning regiment, but my understanding of degenerate behavior and roid use/abuse would indicate that this was in fact part of his routine.

again if you know something about post roid testosterone therapy that i dont (totally possible btw), my apologies in advance, but i know a lot of dudes who cycle roids for martial arts/wrestling/etc, and when they lay off the anabolics, they are not stingy with the testosterone injections, and usually do include them with their morning suplements etc.

roaaahhh 04-20-2007 04:35 PM

Re: So you think youre a degenerate? The bar is *raised*, broseph.
 
she actually spelled it child PRON wtf

JP OSU 04-20-2007 05:23 PM

Re: So you think youre a degenerate? The bar is *raised*, broseph.
 
http://cardplayer.com/players/result...Gustafik/24067

adanthar 04-20-2007 05:38 PM

Re: So you think youre a degenerate? The bar is *raised*, broseph.
 
I felt bad about this. Then I remembered he was a cokehead doing steroids that loved choking during sex and partnering up with a child porn doctor before the poker thing ever happened. Then I felt better [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

in conclusion, lol donkaments.

FatalError 04-20-2007 06:02 PM

Re: So you think youre a degenerate? The bar is *raised*, broseph.
 
dude did'nt deserve to die though

he wasn't even a shortstacker

Craggoo 04-20-2007 06:10 PM

Re: So you think youre a degenerate? The bar is *raised*, broseph.
 
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sounds like online poker is less lucrative with this POS not in it anyway.

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fyp

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A+

pa3lsvt 04-20-2007 07:31 PM

Re: So you think youre a degenerate? The bar is *raised*, broseph.
 
Nice work, whoever did this (in the Comments):
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A+ would read again.
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deaders 04-20-2007 08:28 PM

Re: So you think youre a degenerate? The bar is *raised*, broseph.
 
Ok so I had a copy of a cash poker episode with this guy in it already - check this out, it shows him talking to another guy at the table and making strangling motions, pretty disturbing:

http://fileanchor.com/97805-r.jpg

[Phill] 04-20-2007 11:15 PM

Re: So you think youre a degenerate? The bar is *raised*, broseph.
 
Wow, so the oatmeal lased with (what you assumed to be lethal) cocktail of drugs tasted bad?

Really? No kidding bitch. What you expecting it to taste of, milk and honey?


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