Set facing river checkraise
 

Pretty much no reads on villain.

People I have talked to have said "That's a very easy X", with x being both call and fold.

lolz


PokerStars Game #11487578667: Tournament #57897885, $50+$5 Hold'em No Limit - Level VI (100/200) - 2007/08/14 - 16:40:53 (ET)
Table '57897885 25' 9-max Seat #6 is the button
Seat 1: jusgivithere (3493 in chips)
Seat 2: xthesteinx (10885 in chips)
Seat 3: MattSuspect (2775 in chips)
Seat 4: Wake Boxer (4375 in chips)
Seat 5: manub (1323 in chips)
Seat 6: Gavin_1968 (26979 in chips)
Seat 7: BredaBreda (7965 in chips)
Seat 8: ballespark (6019 in chips)
Seat 9: THAY3R (8690 in chips)
BredaBreda: posts small blind 100
ballespark: posts big blind 200
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to THAY3R [Ts Tc]
THAY3R: raises 400 to 600
jusgivithere: folds
xthesteinx: folds
MattSuspect: folds
Wake Boxer: folds
manub: folds
Gavin_1968: folds
BredaBreda: calls 500
ballespark: calls 400
*** FLOP *** [7s 9d Qs]
BredaBreda: checks
ballespark: checks
THAY3R: bets 1000
BredaBreda: calls 1000
ballespark: folds
*** TURN *** [7s 9d Qs] [3s]
BredaBreda: checks
THAY3R: checks
*** RIVER *** [7s 9d Qs 3s] [Td]
BredaBreda: checks
THAY3R: bets 2200
BredaBreda: raises 4165 to 6365 and is all-in
THAY3R:

Re: Set facing river checkraise
 

i dont want to do the pot odds b/c im lazy but it looks like an EASY fold w/o some huge read. i dont see what the hell your beating here.


check behind on river as well imo.

Re: Set facing river checkraise
 

Call.

I think the naked A [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] does this enough to make it a call.

If he missed getting chips from you with the nut flush on the turn, they usually bet the river to get some value.

If he's ballsy enough to check twice with the nut flush, good for him, make a note.

I doubt he does this a non-nut flush or straight.

Nuts or nothing....probably nothing.

Regards,
Woodguy

Re: Set facing river checkraise
 

i agree that it's a very easy call or fold. considering they are your only two options.

ryanb, checking behind is totally results oriented.

thayer, i think villain does this with too many hands you beat. it's a tight call, i don't think it's easy by any means, but you kinda have to make it.

Re: Set facing river checkraise
 

Bah, such a sick spot, you don't need to be good very often but I don't think you even have that. I probably convince myself villain isn't checking the river after missing his turn c/r and call but I think I prefer folding.

I agree with "nuts or nothing", but without a read I think it's the nuts at least 75% of the time.

Edit to add: I think checking behind on the river is weak.

Re: Set facing river checkraise
 

i think in spots like this its fair to say people are almost never bluffing. the reason i think you have to call is he might be trapping you with a smaller set.

a big pair with a spade or as qx is a likely holding you have that he can check raise the river against.

Re: Set facing river checkraise
 

a smaller set? never

Re: Set facing river checkraise
 

I feel like it's a call but... wouldn't you expect him to bet the river with nothing?

Re: Set facing river checkraise
 

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a smaller set? never

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Why not? Its a 50+5 where there's a lot more classic/[censored] slow playing going on.

Re: Set facing river checkraise
 

for reasons i can't fully explain this hand reminds me of a limit he type hand where you might cr the turn vs an aggro opponent.

i'm not saying he definitely has a set, just that its certainly not impossible.