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Shizzle12345 11-09-2007 09:21 AM

2nd flush 200BB deep6
 
40/25 spewtard, figured he would raise with a lone As and he seemed pretty spewwy FPS. when he raised here i figured he could bluff and got it in. check turn? or B/f?

Stage #813385502: Holdem No Limit $2 - 2007-11-09 08:09:21 (ET)
Table: CHIGWIDDEN (Real Money) Seat #3 is the dealer
Seat 3 - NOMOMRNYCGUY ($327.15 in chips)
Seat 4 - LEFTCOAST72 ($378 in chips)
Seat 5 - BRIT_ABROAD ($513 in chips)
Seat 6 - CRIS2121 ($238.28 in chips)
Seat 1 - SKOOLIO23 ($400 in chips)
Seat 2 - SJAAKIIE ($401.25 in chips)
LEFTCOAST72 - Posts small blind $1
BRIT_ABROAD - Posts big blind $2
*** POCKET CARDS ***
Dealt to SJAAKIIE [Ks Kc]
CRIS2121 - Raises $8 to $8
SKOOLIO23 - Calls $8
SJAAKIIE - Raises $34 to $34
NOMOMRNYCGUY - Folds
LEFTCOAST72 - Folds
BRIT_ABROAD - Folds
CRIS2121 - Folds
SKOOLIO23 - Calls $26
*** FLOP *** [10s 3s 8s]
SKOOLIO23 - Checks
SJAAKIIE - Bets $58
SKOOLIO23 - Calls $58
*** TURN *** [10s 3s 8s] [4s]
SKOOLIO23 - Checks
SJAAKIIE - Bets $111
SKOOLIO23 - Raises $222 to $222

shpanko 11-09-2007 09:24 AM

Re: 2nd flush 200BB deep6
 
Why bet the turn? I think we get more value and protect against getting stacked by the A high flush by checking behind on the turn. This will induce bluffs from non-spade hands as well.

Cue-Ball 66 11-09-2007 09:29 AM

Re: 2nd flush 200BB deep6
 
Definitely check the turn.

If you bet and he has the [As] he either:

- Raises and you fold, or
- Calls and you don't know wtf to do on river

If he has a lower spade he's as likely to call river as he is turn, but he's not calling two streets anyway.

And if he has no spade he's just folding. Might aswell check and let him bluff.

If you categorise his possible holding as [As], [Xs], and no spade, checking is better for every single one.

Shizzle12345 11-09-2007 09:29 AM

Re: 2nd flush 200BB deep6
 
ya indeed, this is typical example of me mindlesly doing something, without considering other options [img]/images/graemlins/frown.gif[/img]. Check turn and check call river is best here indeed. But from 2 previous hand he made some very bad turn calls in big pots so i figured betting was best here.

Cue-Ball 66 11-09-2007 09:29 AM

Re: 2nd flush 200BB deep6
 
Oops. Double post.

Shizzle12345 11-09-2007 09:32 AM

Re: 2nd flush 200BB deep6
 
I guess Ds is affecting my play.

Da GOAT 11-09-2007 09:36 AM

Re: 2nd flush 200BB deep6
 
in the heat of the moment id prob bet turn too, i agree on the points for checking tho

Shizzle12345 11-09-2007 09:39 AM

Re: 2nd flush 200BB deep6
 
k from what iv seen so far from hand the few hands after this hand I dont regret the way i played it. Hed stack off with Q hi flush and maybe even J high flush. And he could make a retraded bluff here so its not -ev, but checking is still better tho


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