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Choparno 11-23-2007 12:46 PM

KK river decision, I am confused
 
Villain is 20/14/2.9. Appears your typical TAG.

I don't understand the river shove. If he's bluffing there are two possibilities: either he is good enough to turn a made hand like JJ into a bluff, putting me on KK/QQ (seems unlikely?), or it is just some random hand.

The problem I have with this hand is that I can't see how either a random hand that is now bluffing, or AK/AQ that is pushing for value, would float the flop OOP. Basically I can't see how he can have an A OR a bluff. Thoughts?

2/4 NL, 5 players

Stacks:
Hero (CO) ($1,044.44 in chips)
BTN ($301.70 in chips)
SB ($400.00 in chips)
BB ($436.40 in chips)
MP ($484.70 in chips)

Preflop: Hero is CO with K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]
MP raises to $12, Hero raises to $40, 3 folds, MP calls $40

Flop ($86): 4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]
MP checks, Hero bets $65, MP calls $65

Turn ($216): A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]
MP checks, Hero checks

River ($216): T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]
MP bets all-in $379.70, Hero ??

xorbie 11-23-2007 12:50 PM

Re: KK river decision, I am confused
 
I'd prob fold.

The Velour Fog 11-23-2007 01:19 PM

Re: KK river decision, I am confused
 
I'd prob call. unless you know he floats alot i wouldnt really be worried about AK/AQ from this type of player, either he backed into trip 10's or he is turning JJ/QQ/"random hand" into a bluff here. i think it could go either way though and i'd make my decision based on my gut feeling here.

D_Lonnigan 11-23-2007 01:24 PM

Re: KK river decision, I am confused
 
I would fold. I would have bet the turn though.

rsxpunk 11-23-2007 04:50 PM

Re: KK river decision, I am confused
 
i would prob b/f the turn for like 140 or so.

captainwacky 11-23-2007 04:53 PM

Re: KK river decision, I am confused
 
so... missed c/r by villain on turn turns into overbet shove on the river. I don't see how much thought you could really put into this unless he's displayed a tendency to make these kind of bets with air.

Hebel 11-23-2007 05:18 PM

Re: KK river decision, I am confused
 
As played I dont really understand why the ace would slow you down. I would bet 150ish

VictorEnriq 11-23-2007 06:34 PM

Re: KK river decision, I am confused
 
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I'd prob call. unless you know he floats alot i wouldnt really be worried about AK/AQ from this type of player, either he backed into trip 10's or he is turning JJ/QQ/"random hand" into a bluff here.

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berserk 11-23-2007 06:58 PM

Re: KK river decision, I am confused
 
Calling seems pretty awful, a set is super likely

duh 11-23-2007 07:32 PM

Re: KK river decision, I am confused
 
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Appears your typical TAG.

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River ($216): T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]
MP bets all-in $379.70, Hero ??

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