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Bingo_Boy 11-15-2007 08:15 AM

micro stakes, flopped top set
 
No read. Any thoughts on my play here?

1)(my pathetic) flop bet should have been bigger to get it all in on the turn?
2)Is anyone just shoving over a min raise on the flop?
3)As played, nobodys folding river are they?

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.05 BB (8 handed) Poker Stars Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

MP1 ($6.75)
MP2 ($3.05)
CO ($2)
Hero ($11.03)
SB ($4.64)
BB ($10.93)
UTG ($7.50)
UTG+1 ($5.64)

Preflop: Hero is Button with K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]. CO posts a blind of $0.07.
<font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, MP2 calls $0.05, CO (poster) checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $0.25</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, BB calls $0.20, MP2 calls $0.20, CO folds.

Flop: ($0.84) 4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
BB checks, MP2 checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $0.3</font>, <font color="#CC3333">BB raises to $0.6</font>, MP2 folds, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $2</font>, BB calls $1.40.

Turn: ($4.84) 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
BB checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $4</font>, BB calls $4.

River: ($12.84) Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">BB bets $4.68 (All-In)</font>, Hero calls $4.68.

Final Pot: $22.20

Results in white below: <font color="#FFFFFF">
BB has Ts Js (straight, king high).
Hero has Kc Kh (three of a kind, kings).
Outcome: BB wins $22.20. </font>

Lego05 11-15-2007 08:18 AM

Re: micro stakes, flopped top set
 
Your flop bet and your flop 3bet both should have been bigger.

xoom 11-15-2007 08:29 AM

Re: micro stakes, flopped top set
 
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Your flop bet and your flop 3bet both should have been bigger.

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Turn and river is fine.

Maunzekater 11-15-2007 08:31 AM

Re: micro stakes, flopped top set
 
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Your flop bet and your flop 3bet both should have been bigger.

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...and shoving the turn would have been a no-brainer then.

Bingo_Boy 11-15-2007 08:56 AM

Re: micro stakes, flopped top set
 
Thanks. As you could probably tell from the question I suppose i kind of knew that but was just looking for some confirmation really.

Im a winning but not very good SNG player whos decided he needs to try and learn cash from the bottom and work up, so im not used to the deep stacks.

If i just pot the flop against an unknown how often are we likely to get raised?.
Are we potting flop and turn and folding when the flush hits or are we overbetting it and hoping not to lose him?

Its not worth risking the check raise to build pot is it?

Maunzekater 11-15-2007 09:41 AM

Re: micro stakes, flopped top set
 
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If i just pot the flop against an unknown how often are we likely to get raised?.


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How likely is it that a stranger you meet on the street will punch you in the face, if you go to him and call him a [censored]? You will not know until you do it, right?

Ok, maybe this is a bad analogy, but my point should be clear. Without knowing anything about your opponent, you can't answer this question.


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Are we potting flop and turn and folding when the flush hits or are we overbetting it and hoping not to lose him?

Its not worth risking the check raise to build pot is it?

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You can't check-raise, because there is nobody to act behind you [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

If you flop a monster like this, do anything to make to pot as big as possible - it is that simple. Do a little dance in front of your monitor when he check-raises you. Then 3bet him big. He tells you he has a big hand (obviously not the nuts), or he is bluffing. If he is bluffing, you will not make any more money. If he has a set, an unlikely 2pair or a strong draw, you want him to put all the money in.

bsball8806 11-15-2007 09:45 AM

Re: micro stakes, flopped top set
 
You have to bet at least .60 on the flop. This is a very draw heavy board, you want to make straight/flush/combo draws pay heavily to draw against your top set.

If you had bet .60, then when he check/min raises you, you can reraise to more than 2 dollars, by assuming he's on a draw.

Turn is fine, river is fine. Cooler.


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