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praios 11-29-2007 07:31 PM

bottom set vs shorty how to play
 
$0.5/$1 Pot Limit Omaha Hi
5 players
Converted at weaktight.com

Stacks:
Hero (<font color="#0000cc">$116.35</font>)
CO (<font color="#0000cc">$77.70</font>)
BTN (<font color="#0000cc">$142.80</font>)
SB (<font color="#0000cc">$53.80</font>)
BB (<font color="#0000cc">$78.70</font>)

Pre-flop: ($1.5, 5 players) Hero is UTG Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 2[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 2[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]
Hero calls $1, <font color="#777777">1 fold</font>, BTN calls $1, <font color="#cc0000">SB raises to $5</font>, <font color="#777777">1 fold</font>, Hero calls $4, BTN calls $4

Flop: K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 2[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] ($16, 3 players)
<font color="#cc0000">SB bets $16</font>, Hero calls $16, <font color="#777777">1 fold</font>

Turn: T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] ($48, 2 players)
<font color="#cc0000">SB goes all-in $32.8</font>, Hero calls $32.8

River: 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] ($113.6, 2 players)

Final Pot: $113.60

he insta bets outs both times.
fold preflop? if not folded preflop what to do on fop and turn?

Poker monkey 11-29-2007 08:05 PM

Re: bottom set vs shorty how to play
 
Depends how tight he is. If he only raises 5% pre-flop, I think folding the flop is good. If he's a loose raiser, shove the flop. But given that he's raising OOP, I think AA / KK hands are the majority of his range.

praios 11-29-2007 11:46 PM

Re: bottom set vs shorty how to play
 
that is the best preflop play? just fold?

chucky 11-29-2007 11:55 PM

Re: bottom set vs shorty how to play
 
short stacks tend not to raise with wraps, I probably fold flop. I definitely fold the turn because with two queen blockers, opponent's range is aa/kk. preflop is fine.

RoundTower 11-30-2007 08:13 AM

Re: bottom set vs shorty how to play
 
with no stats I just shove the flop, short stacks are more retarded than the other two posters seem to think. Preflop is good.

grizy 11-30-2007 08:49 AM

Re: bottom set vs shorty how to play
 
With no reads, just shove the flop.

That said, there is a ton of players at .5/1 against whom folding on flop is correct.

mingusmingus 11-30-2007 09:52 AM

Re: bottom set vs shorty how to play
 
Call preflop, shove the flop. Plenty of AKJT/A234 hands in his range.


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