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HelixTrix 09-18-2007 02:41 PM

Deep stacked, blind v blind, flush v flush
 
Villain and I have both been really aggressive. He's been 3-betting me a lot, I've 4-bet him a few times, but we haven't really clashed postflop. Spewy call?

Full Tilt No-Limit Hold'em, $2 BB (5 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

Button ($164.35)
Hero ($645.45)
BB (Villain) ($418.85)
UTG ($223.85)
MP ($287)

Preflop: Hero is SB with 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $4</font>, BB (Villain)/ calls $2.

Flop: ($8) 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 3[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $8</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Villain raises to $31</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $132</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Villain raises to $445.85 (All-In)</font>, Hero calls $290.85.

Turn: ($854.70) 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players, 1 all-in)</font>

River: ($854.70) 3[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players, 1 all-in)</font>

Final Pot: $854.70

hotbacon 09-18-2007 02:42 PM

Re: Deep stacked, blind v blind, flush v flush
 
nh no way you can fold this

HelixTrix 09-18-2007 02:54 PM

Re: Deep stacked, blind v blind, flush v flush
 
So his range includes non-flush hands?

willw9 09-18-2007 02:56 PM

Re: Deep stacked, blind v blind, flush v flush
 
Preflop is an absolute joke, and your betsizing is very good on the flop. Clearly a standard call on the flop wtf.

HelixTrix 09-18-2007 03:01 PM

Re: Deep stacked, blind v blind, flush v flush
 
Not much point talking about preflop as I just made a variation play. My flop raise defines my hand very clearly but he stills shoves on me. If he only does this with any 2 hearts I can't call. It gets a lot closer if you discount the 2-heart hands he would likely have repopped with pre but it's still a fold unless there are Ahx hands, sets etc. in the mix too, which is really my question. I realise I may be getting results-orientated but this is one of those situations which leaves me wondering how the play 'should' go on each side.

Put it this way, what do you do with a set if you are villain?

shpanko 09-18-2007 04:01 PM

Re: Deep stacked, blind v blind, flush v flush
 
If you 3-bet the flop then you're not folding. Folding to a 4-bet is turning your hand into a bluff with your 3-bet. THe only other way to play this is to call the flop raise and bet/call or c/r the turn. I think this is fine though.

ajmargarine 09-18-2007 04:09 PM

Re: Deep stacked, blind v blind, flush v flush
 
Shania punishes those who minraise preflop.

And, yay, I flopped a flush, how quickly can I get the money in...


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