NL10 - Calling a shove with A high
 

Another situation when (lately) I found often myself: calling shove.

Villain here is a 48/32/2 really LAG: he played fast a lot of hand (too many) stealing often.

PF his hand range is basically a stealing range: so let's say Ax, Kx, any broadway, 89s+.
On the flop I RR what it seems to be a CB: when he just called I put him on a draw (maybe combo).
The turn give me a gutshot so basically I've only 7 outs and I really didn't want to go to a showdown.

Can you check my line?


Full Tilt Poker
No Limit Holdem Ring game
Blinds: $0.05/$0.10
6 players
Converter

Stack sizes:
UTG: $3.35
UTG+1: $2.85
CO: $9.55
Button: $8.75
SB: $9.45
Hero: $11.95

Pre-flop: (6 players) Hero is BB with 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]
2 folds, <font color="#cc0000">CO raises to $0.35</font>, 2 folds, Hero calls.

Flop: 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] ($0.75, 2 players)
Hero checks, <font color="#cc0000">CO bets $0.75</font>, <font color="#cc0000">Hero raises to $2.5</font>, CO calls.

Turn: 5[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] ($5.75, 2 players)
<font color="#cc0000">Hero bets $5</font>, <font color="#cc0000">CO raises all-in $6.7</font>, Hero calls.

River: A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] ($19.15, 1 player + 1 all-in - Main pot: $19.15)


Results:
Final pot: $19.15

Re: NL10 - Calling a shove with A high
 

This is awful. When facing bad, spewy, lags just wait for a real hand and watch them not adjust and try to push you off it. What you're doing here is outspewing him when you should be just playing better hands than him. If you're going to try to resteal then repop him preflop instead of calling, hitting nothing, and committing your whole stack unimproved. If he won't fold to preflop resteals from the blinds then tighten your OOP 3-bet range slightly and take him to valuetown.

Re: NL10 - Calling a shove with A high
 

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PF his hand range is basically a stealing range: so let's say Ax, Kx, any broadway, 89s+.

Flop: 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]


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Okay, but then:

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On the flop...I put him on a draw (maybe combo).

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This makes none sense.

Re: NL10 - Calling a shove with A high
 

Hm I think your pf range is a bit off if he's really 48/32. He could be open raising almost atc in co. raising "Ax, Kx, any broadway, 89s+" is standard here even for most tags.
Therefore I'd 3bet him pre (esp. if he shuts down quickly to 3bets) he can have virtually anything here and can't call your 3bet with most of it.

That said your flop play is ok imo (I'd raise a bit smaller though). But when he calls that flop raise you have like a psb left (any bet commits you...) and I really doubt he'll fold much on the turn that he called the flop with (Kx,Qx, maybe even a fd will call).

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What you're doing here is outspewing him when you should be just playing better hands than him.

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Outspewing is the new outplaying.

Re: NL10 - Calling a shove with A high
 

you're really trying to tell him your hand is better and he really doesnt want to understand. just give up.

Re: NL10 - Calling a shove with A high
 

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Okay, but then:

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On the flop...I put him on a draw (maybe combo).

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This makes none sense.

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Why? ATs, JTs are all hands in his range.

Re: NL10 - Calling a shove with A high
 

wow

Re: NL10 - Calling a shove with A high
 

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This is awful. When facing bad, spewy, lags just wait for a real hand and watch them not adjust and try to push you off it. What you're doing here is outspewing him when you should be just playing better hands than him. If you're going to try to resteal then repop him preflop instead of calling, hitting nothing, and committing your whole stack unimproved. If he won't fold to preflop resteals from the blinds then tighten your OOP 3-bet range slightly and take him to valuetown.

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Ok, so basically i misuse a resteal: if he's a thinking player he will fold a pure/semi bluff, will call with a potential good hand a reraise/shove with his best hands.

Re: NL10 - Calling a shove with A high
 

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wow

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[img]/images/graemlins/blush.gif[/img] uh, where I'm wrong?