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mak15 06-04-2007 11:33 PM

3/6 vs pokeder
 
villain is ipokeder who is 23/17/3 and fearless. despite having played 3400 hands with him in the last month i really dont know how he views me. i assume he thinks im capable of anything (big calls, big folds, thin value bets, etc...)


PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $6 BB (6 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

UTG ($605.25)
MP ($853.50)
CO ($1605.75)
Hero ($736.15)
SB ($114)
BB ($609)

Preflop: Hero is Button with Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $18</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, BB calls $12.

Flop: ($39) 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 2[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
BB checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $30</font>, BB calls $30.

Turn: ($99) 4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
BB checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $78</font>, <font color="#CC3333">BB raises to $192</font>, Hero ?

a call puts the pot at 483 with 369 left to play.

turn action and if we call, river plan?

teh_mewse 06-05-2007 12:15 AM

Re: 3/6 vs pokeder
 
it feels like he's making a move on you but i probably fold.

Really tough hand though, i contemplated not giving input for fear of looking stupid

futuredoc85 06-05-2007 12:34 AM

Re: 3/6 vs pokeder
 
not really sure wtf he's doing this with honestly and id sometimes call him down because of that, but i think this is probably a fold.

zio_slim 06-05-2007 04:16 AM

Re: 3/6 vs pokeder
 
He could be doing this even with a worse ace, or he could be making a move because he's feeling 2barreled.
Against him probably I call this.

I re-evaluate his line on the river, and if it doesn't convince me, I could also call another bet.
Very stationy but sometimes profitable :-)

Charmer 06-05-2007 05:23 AM

Re: 3/6 vs pokeder
 
Im calling down. Maybe folding a heart river

Caruso 06-05-2007 06:03 AM

Re: 3/6 vs pokeder
 
ugly spot, i dont know if its a good idea but i think id shove here for metagame (sometimes). hes a good player you play frequent and he knows there are like zero hands that can stand a turn c/r, so he might play his fd like this. plus, i like his whine when the 3rd 4 comes on the river and you 1-out-bustet his 22

mak15 06-05-2007 11:39 AM

Re: 3/6 vs pokeder
 
bump for day crowd.

mike0292 06-05-2007 11:44 AM

Re: 3/6 vs pokeder
 
interesting hand.

I call turn and fold river ui. I doubt he would shove river with anything you beat.

JooWish622 06-05-2007 11:49 AM

Re: 3/6 vs pokeder
 
[ QUOTE ]
it feels like he's making a move on you but i probably fold.

Really tough hand though, i contemplated not giving input for fear of looking stupid

[/ QUOTE ]

you did though and you looked stupid. Feel like he's makign a move? based on what info?

You need info on turn CR ranges. IF that includes AT on a draw heavy board, then 3 bet. Otherwise, I think it's a fold.

JooWish622 06-05-2007 11:49 AM

Re: 3/6 vs pokeder
 
[ QUOTE ]
villain is ipokeder who is 23/17/3 and fearless. despite having played 3400 hands with him in the last month i really dont know how he views me. i assume he thinks im capable of anything (big calls, big folds, thin value bets, etc...)


PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $6 BB (6 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

UTG ($605.25)
MP ($853.50)
CO ($1605.75)
Hero ($736.15)
SB ($114)
BB ($609)

Preflop: Hero is Button with Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $18</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, BB calls $12.

Flop: ($39) 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 2[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
BB checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $30</font>, BB calls $30.

Turn: ($99) 4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
BB checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $78</font>, <font color="#CC3333">BB raises to $192</font>, Hero ?

a call puts the pot at 483 with 369 left to play.

turn action and if we call, river plan?

[/ QUOTE ]

you know how much easier this is if you just bet like 100 on the turn? If you think he goes bonkers with TP, again, push.


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