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mike l. 03-11-2007 05:55 PM

30-60 hand against top poster
 
live 30-60. i wasnt hero in this hand but a friend of mine was. my friend's image at the time would be weak tight. he's getting crap cards and when he does get something worth playing he's not seeing a lot of showdowns. justin a. is the villain. his image at this time would have to be tag. although running bad he is playing very few hands and pounding the pot when he does. also hero knows who justin a is and how good he plays.

so hero raises JJ utg+1, justin 3 bets out of the sb, and hero calls. heads up.

the flop is AA6 rainbow. justin bets, hero calls.

the turn is a 9. justin checks, hero checks.

the river is a 2. justin checks. hero ???

ShawnHoo 03-11-2007 06:01 PM

Re: 30-60 hand against top poster
 
Bet/fold. I've never played with justin, but is he capable of going for a c/r after whiffing once?

Also, do we like the turn check?

Entity 03-11-2007 06:04 PM

Re: 30-60 hand against top poster
 
I'd check. I doubt Justin is paying off with 88 here and I also severely doubt given the way the hand played out he's folding with QQ-JJ.

mike l. 03-11-2007 06:09 PM

Re: 30-60 hand against top poster
 
"is he capable of going for a c/r after whiffing once?"

he's capable of anything any other expert lhe player is capable of.

Joe Tall 03-11-2007 06:16 PM

Re: 30-60 hand against top poster
 
Checks and waits on Justin.

PokerBob 03-11-2007 06:25 PM

Re: 30-60 hand against top poster
 
[ QUOTE ]
Checks and waits on Justin.

[/ QUOTE ]

private joker 03-11-2007 06:28 PM

Re: 30-60 hand against top poster
 
Justin is only paying off with a smaller pair if he puts us on a really small pair (which we won't have raising up front) or KQ for the bluff (which we won't have because we called the flop, and a player with our image wouldn't call that flop without at least a pair).

So that means he probably won't call a bet with a worse hand. And he won't fold KK/QQ. So I check behind again.

vmacosta 03-11-2007 06:41 PM

Re: 30-60 hand against top poster
 
Given the reads, I don't see how justin ever has you beat here. He's not just gonna sit back with KK/QQ and hope a weak/tight will vb thin in position on the river for him, right?

I don't know if that makes a bet correct here, but I'm just saying that justin has specifically TT here a lot, so a bet can't be all that bad.

ShawnHoo 03-11-2007 06:51 PM

Re: 30-60 hand against top poster
 
One reason I don't like checking behind this river is because I (according to the OP) have a weak-tight image and checking here would just seem to reinforce that.

private joker 03-11-2007 06:55 PM

Re: 30-60 hand against top poster
 
Shawn, what's wrong with having a weak-tight image if it's incorrect? It's something we can exploit by making more aggressive plays counting on some serious fold equity to pad our EV.


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