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runhot 09-09-2007 01:45 PM

jj utg+1, limper, 14 bb shove? ($11)
 

Full Tilt Poker
No Limit Holdem Tournament
Blinds: t50/t100
7 players
Converter

Stack sizes:
UTG: t1310
Hero: t1410
MP1: t570
CO: t2270
Button: t3265
SB: t3240
BB: t1435

Pre-flop: (7 players) Hero is UTG+1 with J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]
UTG calls t100 <font color="aaaaaa">(pot was t150)</font>, <font color="#cc0000">Hero ???</font>

hasanthadon 09-09-2007 01:51 PM

Re: jj utg+1, limper, 14 bb shove? ($11)
 
raise to 300, maybe more. evaluate any reraises, i dont see any reason to push here since ur stack is in good shape, i think youre better off trying to extract value with this hand than steal the blinds at this point

JSH06 09-09-2007 02:00 PM

Re: jj utg+1, limper, 14 bb shove? ($11)
 
[ QUOTE ]
raise to 300, maybe more. evaluate any reraises, i dont see any reason to push here since ur stack is in good shape, i think youre better off trying to extract value with this hand than steal the blinds at this point

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Evaluate any re-raises? Are you saying you might raise/fold JJ w/ 14BBs?

vers 09-09-2007 02:22 PM

Re: jj utg+1, limper, 14 bb shove? ($11)
 
I probably just shove after a limper and 14x. I know this seems like kinda big, but JJ is pretty tough to play in this spot. Say you raise to 400, leave 1000 behind and get called by utg limper. Pot is 950, Kxx flop, he fires into you, you pretty much have to call off your stack. Also, if someone calls behind you, it's akward too, I don't like playing this hand OOP. Shoving it in is safer and wastes less time too lol. In 11s as well, I've seen ppl limp semi strong utg and call off huge shoves so I wouldn't be surprised if utg or someone else calls you w/ like 44-88, KJs, and other hands you are crushing.

LuckyJohn 09-09-2007 02:40 PM

Re: jj utg+1, limper, 14 bb shove? ($11)
 
Generally shove 30% / raise 3x 70%

Maybe sometimes in situations like this i think about call, if there is someone who will likely shove after me with not so good hand, trying to steal the pot, and i will call him.

BradleyT 09-09-2007 02:43 PM

Re: jj utg+1, limper, 14 bb shove? ($11)
 
An overcard will flop 57% of the time. Much easier to push than to possibly play multi-way without position (if someone behind you calls).

chuckpalms04 09-09-2007 03:00 PM

Re: jj utg+1, limper, 14 bb shove? ($11)
 
shove looks good.

sence25 09-09-2007 03:04 PM

Re: jj utg+1, limper, 14 bb shove? ($11)
 
please push

runhot 09-09-2007 03:23 PM

Re: jj utg+1, limper, 14 bb shove? ($11)
 
i shoved. thanks.

kuey 09-09-2007 06:21 PM

Re: jj utg+1, limper, 14 bb shove? ($11)
 
I shove. If god came down from heaven and told me he had AA-QQ, I might consider limping. Folding here is just bad.


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