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hanning 11-18-2007 01:57 PM

NL25 - Are these good folds
 
First - I know that it is generally not good form to put multiple hands in a single post but all of these in my mind are somewhat similar so I thought it would be ok this time.

With that said - I have had problems gettng away from good pockets in the past and feel I have improved in this area somewhat but want to make sure that I am not going to far in the other direction - that is playing scared.

Any comments or opinions on these folds is appreciated.

Thanks.

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Villain in this hand is 12/7/(INF) over 41 hands - so not terribly confident in these stats.

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.25 BB (9 handed) Poker Stars Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

MP3 ($38.65)
CO ($49.50)
Button ($5.05)
SB ($29)
BB ($51.40)
UTG ($15.40)
UTG+1 ($25.25)
MP1 ($13.05)
Hero ($24.50)

Preflop: Hero is MP2 with Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">UTG+1 raises to $1</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $2</font>, <font color="#666666">5 folds</font>, UTG+1 calls $1.

Flop: ($4.35) 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">UTG+1 bets $3</font>, Hero folds.

Final Pot: $4.35

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Villain in this hand is 21/15/0.75 again over only 40 hands.

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.25 BB (9 handed) Poker Stars Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

MP3 ($36.40)
CO ($49.15)
Button ($4.05)
SB ($32.50)
BB ($52.30)
UTG ($17.65)
UTG+1 ($24.80)
MP1 ($11.45)
Hero ($25.25)

Preflop: Hero is MP2 with J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $1</font>, MP3 calls $1, <font color="#666666">4 folds</font>.

Flop: ($2.35) 5[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $2</font>, MP3 calls $2.

Turn: ($6.35) 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $4</font>, MP3 calls $4.

River: ($14.35) 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">MP3 bets $10</font>, Hero folds.

Final Pot: $14.35

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In this hand villain is new to table - no reads.

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.25 BB (8 handed) Poker Stars Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

Hero ($24.20)
CO ($9)
Button ($22.70)
SB ($32.20)
BB ($5)
UTG ($24)
UTG+1 ($5.65)
MP1 ($6)

Preflop: Hero is MP2 with J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $1</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, Button calls $1, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>.

Flop: ($2.35) T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">Button bets $2</font>, Hero folds.

Final Pot: $2.35

AlexB182 11-18-2007 02:13 PM

Re: NL25 - Are these good folds
 
Hand 1: minraise PF is awful.
Hand 2: I'd rather bet out on the river, checking here invites villain to try to steal the pot and you'll have a tough time calling any reasonable bet on this scary board.
Hand 3: CB flop.

customer_nr1 11-18-2007 02:15 PM

Re: NL25 - Are these good folds
 
In the first hand definitely reraise more than that, like 3-3.5 but then if he bets I think you can safely fold there.

Idk about the second one. It's kinda hard OOP. On the river though you only beat a bluff I guess? He's pretty unlikely to have JJ+ there maybe TT? I don't think he would call PF w A9 so that leaves us w maybe T9? or a flush maybe 66 and other things that beat us. I guess the river fold seems ok.

Third hand:
I think I would cbet there but as played the only option is to fold.

phydaux 11-18-2007 02:16 PM

Re: NL25 - Are these good folds
 
1) Probably a good fold, based on Villian's stats.

2) Probably a good fold.

3) Lead the flop, or CR. Button could have anything.

toymach776 11-18-2007 03:52 PM

Re: NL25 - Are these good folds
 
Hand 1: you need to raise more pf. Why did u minraise?
Hand 2: prolly fold.
Hand 3: Im not sure if I am correct, but I would definitely cbet that flop about $2.

Chargers In 07 11-18-2007 04:18 PM

Re: NL25 - Are these good folds
 
Hand 1: Reraise to $3.50 preflop. Fold on the flop is fine.
Hand 2: Fold river.
Hand 3: I c/c here against an unknown.

Lansingg 11-18-2007 06:03 PM

Re: NL25 - Are these good folds
 
same advice as above.

customer_nr1 11-18-2007 06:16 PM

Re: NL25 - Are these good folds
 
Could you please elaborate on the c/c part in the 3rd hand? Why not cbet? c/f is too weak since we likely have the best hand here?


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