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Re: 30/60 revisited

most of the people posting here have no idea what a real bad beat is like. when you lose a $700 pot to a rivered gutshot please let me know. this guy is one of my favorite maniacs.

PokerStars 30/60 Omaha/8 (6 handed) Poker Stars Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

Preflop: Hero is SB with 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
4 folds, Hero raises, BB calls.

Flop: (4 SB) K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 players)
Hero bets, BB calls.

Turn: (3 BB) Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 players)
Hero bets, BB raises, Hero 3-bets, BB caps, Hero calls.

River: (11 BB) 3[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 players)
Hero checks, BB bets, Hero calls.

Final Pot: 13 BB

Results in white below: 
Hero has 9c Ac Kc Ad (High: three of a kind, aces).
BB has Ts 4d 9d 2d (Low: 5, 4, 3, 2, A | High: straight, five high).
Outcome: BB wins 13 BB.

Re: 30/60 revisited

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most of the people posting here have no idea what a real bad beat is like. when you lose a $700 pot to a rivered gutshot please let me know. this guy is one of my favorite maniacs.

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Not sure if you're kidding. He had a double gutter and He figured he was good for half the pot with any low. Granted, capping the turn seems a little unortho, but he wanted to take down a legend.

Re: 30/60 revisited

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Not sure if you're kidding.

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i'm not

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He had a double gutter and He figured he was good for half the pot with any low.

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any low? like when a deuce or a four hits?

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Granted, capping the turn seems a little unortho, but he wanted to take down a legend.

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it's a situation where you cap if you don't like money

Omaha Hi/Low 8-or-better: 40 enumerated boards containing As 5s Kh Qh
cards scoop HIwin HIlos HItie LOwin LOlos LOtie EV
Ac Kc 9c Ad 20 32 8 0 0 0 0 0.650
Ts 9d 4d 2d 8 8 32 0 16 0 0 0.350

Re: 30/60 revisited

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Not sure if you're kidding.

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i'm not

it's a situation where you cap if you don't like money

Omaha Hi/Low 8-or-better: 40 enumerated boards containing As 5s Kh Qh
cards scoop HIwin HIlos HItie LOwin LOlos LOtie EV
Ac Kc 9c Ad 20 32 8 0 0 0 0 0.650
Ts 9d 4d 2d 8 8 32 0 16 0 0 0.350

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Not defending the play, just trying to find the defining line for a bad beat. 2 to 1 Dave?

Re: 30/60 revisited

So 35/65 is TRULY a bad beat.. glad I know that for future info now.

Re: 30/60 revisited

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The bs never stops at Pokerstars. Just put all your money in preflop with A2, and you will be rewarded.

PokerStars Game #12927744742: Omaha Hi/Lo No Limit ($1/$2) - 2007/10/29 - 21:39:40 (ET)
Table 'Prymno IV' 9-max Seat #7 is the button
Seat 1: Baba Fats ($198 in chips)
Seat 2: Pandochat ($286.15 in chips)
Seat 3: GCsmooth001 ($171.60 in chips)
Seat 4: whoppo ($95.15 in chips)
Seat 5: HILOADDICT ($176 in chips)
Seat 6: stuey12590 ($218.20 in chips)
Seat 7: Klinon ($87.30 in chips)
Seat 8: ScoopyMcpots ($135.25 in chips)
Seat 9: magicmike ($140.15 in chips)
ScoopyMcpots: posts small blind $1
magicmike: posts big blind $2
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to magicmike [Ks 8c Ac As]
Baba Fats: folds
Pandochat: folds
GCsmooth001: folds
whoppo: folds
HILOADDICT: calls $2
stuey12590: raises $8 to $10
Klinon: folds
ScoopyMcpots: folds
magicmike: raises $130.15 to $140.15 and is all-in
HILOADDICT: folds
stuey12590: calls $130.15
*** FLOP *** [6d 4h 5d]
*** TURN *** [6d 4h 5d] [Ad]
*** RIVER *** [6d 4h 5d Ad] [Qh]
*** SHOW DOWN ***
magicmike: shows [Ks 8c Ac As] (HI: three of a kind, Aces; LO: 8,6,5,4,A)
stuey12590: shows [Qc 3c Ah 2h] (HI: a straight, Deuce to Six; LO: 5,4,3,2,A)
stuey12590 collected $140.15 from pot
stuey12590 collected $140.15 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $283.30 | Rake $3
Board [6d 4h 5d Ad Qh]
Seat 1: Baba Fats folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 2: Pandochat folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 3: GCsmooth001 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 4: whoppo folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 5: HILOADDICT folded before Flop
Seat 6: stuey12590 showed [Qc 3c Ah 2h] and won ($280.30) with HI: a straight, Deuce to Six; LO: 5,4,3,2,A
Seat 7: Klinon (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 8: ScoopyMcpots (small blind) folded before Flop
Seat 9: magicmike (big blind) showed [Ks 8c Ac As] and lost with HI: three of a kind, Aces; LO: 8,6,5,4,A

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Ummmmm, u serious here? He thought he had a DS-ed (and I mean "Dead Sexy" not Double-Suited) A,2,3,x here. Turns out one of his suits was dead.

Although preflop odds in plo8 are about as useful as my sister's wooden leg in an ass-kciking contest, let's twodime it anyway:

http://twodimes.net/h/?z=3850790
pokenum -mc 500000 -o8 ks 8c ac as - qc 3c ah 2h
Omaha Hi/Low 8-or-better: 500000 sampled boards
cards scoop HIwin HIlos HItie LOwin LOlos LOtie EV
As Ks Ac 8c 181658 345109 153108 1783 16139 162250 4742 0.541
Qc 3c Ah 2h 140089 153108 345109 1783 241817 0 4742 0.459

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Or you can let weaktight do the work:

Omaha Hi/Lo NL
9 players
Converted at weaktight.com

Stacks:
UTG Baba Fats ($198.00)
UTG+1 Pandochat ($286.15)
MP1 GCsmooth001 ($171.60)
MP2 whoppo ($95.15)
LP HILOADDICT ($176.00)
CO stuey12590 ($218.20)
BTN Klinon ($87.30)
SB ScoopyMcpots ($135.25)
BB Hero ($140.15)

Pre-flop: ($3, 9 players) Hero is BB K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]
4 folds, HILOADDICT calls $2, stuey12590 raises to $10, 2 folds, Hero goes all-in $140.15, HILOADDICT folds, stuey12590 calls $130.15
http://weaktight.com/images/qc.gif http://weaktight.com/images/3c.gif http://weaktight.com/images/ah.gif http://weaktight.com/images/2h.gif 45.90% (EV = -$10.12)
http://weaktight.com/images/as.gif http://weaktight.com/images/ks.gif http://weaktight.com/images/ac.gif http://weaktight.com/images/8c.gif 54.10% (EV = $13.12)

Flop: 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 5[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] ($283.3, 2 players)
http://weaktight.com/images/qc.gif http://weaktight.com/images/3c.gif http://weaktight.com/images/ah.gif http://weaktight.com/images/2h.gif 98.90% (EV = $280.18)
http://weaktight.com/images/as.gif http://weaktight.com/images/ks.gif http://weaktight.com/images/ac.gif http://weaktight.com/images/8c.gif 1.10% (EV = $3.12)

Turn: A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] ($283.3, 2 players)
http://weaktight.com/images/qc.gif http://weaktight.com/images/3c.gif http://weaktight.com/images/ah.gif http://weaktight.com/images/2h.gif 88.70% (EV = $251.29)
http://weaktight.com/images/as.gif http://weaktight.com/images/ks.gif http://weaktight.com/images/ac.gif http://weaktight.com/images/8c.gif 11.30% (EV = $32.01)

River: Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] ($283.3, 2 players)
http://weaktight.com/images/qc.gif http://weaktight.com/images/3c.gif http://weaktight.com/images/ah.gif http://weaktight.com/images/2h.gif 100.00% (EV = $283.30)
http://weaktight.com/images/as.gif http://weaktight.com/images/ks.gif http://weaktight.com/images/ac.gif http://weaktight.com/images/8c.gif 0.00% (EV = $0.00)

Final Pot: $283.30
stuey12590 shows: Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 2[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]
Hero shows: K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]

stuey12590 wins $280 ( won +$139.85 )
HILOADDICT lost -$2.00
Hero lost -$140.15

Re: 30/60 revisited

i actually do beat LO8. here's how: straddle and get dealt 88K6.

preflop: limp, raise, raise, SB calls, BB calls, i call, limper calls, raiser calls. 6 handed for 4 bets.

flop: J83, two diamonds. blinds check, i bet, 2 callers, button raises, blinds call, i 3 bet. everybody calls.

turn: King. i bet, everybody calls.

river: Jack. i bet and get a "it's a big busted draw" call.

that's 29 bets.

Re: 30/60 revisited

nobody has J3 there?

Re: 30/60 revisited

I'm back to playing PL again, I guess. We'll see how long it lasts before I go busto.

Funniest part so far: A guy minraising preflop with 9877. Maybe he didn't know it was hi/low.