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gboro 11-21-2007 07:48 PM

thoughts on these hands
 
hand 1 is from the stars 50 rebuy, villain has been opening a lot of pots but not getting too crazy postflop. i popped him once with qq and he called and check/folded the flop.

i asked 3 good players about this hand and got 3 different answers so i thought it would be a good one to post.

hands 2-4 are all early in the full tilt 50 freezeout, no reads.


1) PokerStars Game #13383461356: Tournament #67347697, $50+$5 Hold'em No Limit - Level IX (300/600) - 2007/11/21 - 17:32:47 (ET)
Table '67347697 18' 9-max Seat #3 is the button
Seat 1: mortonator99 (13875 in chips)
Seat 2: JOEYTHEB (41817 in chips)
Seat 3: ukruss (7460 in chips)
Seat 4: GRinDer444 (21765 in chips)
Seat 5: nomoballer (8410 in chips)
Seat 6: Mikael 666 (13491 in chips)
Seat 7: Baakbone (34240 in chips)
Seat 9: gboro780 (22480 in chips)
mortonator99: posts the ante 50
JOEYTHEB: posts the ante 50
ukruss: posts the ante 50
GRinDer444: posts the ante 50
nomoballer: posts the ante 50
Mikael 666: posts the ante 50
Baakbone: posts the ante 50
gboro780: posts the ante 50
GRinDer444: posts small blind 300
nomoballer: posts big blind 600
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to gboro780 [Ah Qd]
Mikael 666: folds
Baakbone: raises 1200 to 1800
gboro780:


2)
Full Tilt Poker Game #4250978861: $15,000 Guarantee (31678605), Table 28 - 25/50 - No Limit Hold'em - 16:13:15 ET - 2007/11/21
Seat 1: gboro780 (3,680)
Seat 2: juanrichguy (7,205)
Seat 3: deeman7 (3,260)
Seat 4: redrumxxx (2,440)
Seat 5: 515FahQ515 (5,495)
Seat 6: iceman810 (1,335)
Seat 7: Cre8ive (2,675)
Seat 8: Big Plick (1,303)
Seat 9: mikey11773 (3,475)
deeman7 posts the small blind of 25
redrumxxx posts the big blind of 50
The button is in seat #2
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to gboro780 [Kh Ac]
515FahQ515 calls 50
iceman810 raises to 250
Cre8ive has 15 seconds left to act
Cre8ive calls 250
Big Plick folds
mikey11773 folds
gboro780:


3) Full Tilt Poker Game #4250748808: $15,000 Guarantee (31678605), Table 28 - 15/30 - No Limit Hold'em - 15:48:28 ET - 2007/11/21
Seat 1: gboro780 (2,025)
Seat 2: the-xmen12 (2,260)
Seat 3: deeman7 (1,970)
Seat 4: redrumxxx (1,910)
Seat 5: 515FahQ515 (3,505)
Seat 6: iceman810 (1,660)
Seat 7: Cre8ive (3,540)
Seat 8: Bluf4fun (2,335)
Seat 9: HoodyHooTay (2,045)
redrumxxx posts the small blind of 15
515FahQ515 posts the big blind of 30
The button is in seat #3
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to gboro780 [Tc Th]
iceman810 folds
Cre8ive has 15 seconds left to act
Cre8ive folds
Bluf4fun folds
HoodyHooTay folds
gboro780 raises to 90
the-xmen12 folds
deeman7 folds
redrumxxx calls 75
515FahQ515 folds
*** FLOP *** [4c 4s 7d]
redrumxxx checks
gboro780 bets 140
redrumxxx raises to 630
gboro780:


4) Full Tilt Poker Game #4251952857: $15,000 Guarantee (31678605), Table 26 - 120/240 Ante 25 - No Limit Hold'em - 17:54:55 ET - 2007/11/21
Seat 1: NutZonLoCk (6,775)
Seat 2: aaajack (7,257)
Seat 3: bfunkadunk (19,090)
Seat 4: gboro780 (15,594)
Seat 5: S_Dot111 (11,551)
Seat 7: Padlec87 (4,860)
Seat 8: isejbin (8,817)
Seat 9: sd_hang_10 (13,118)
NutZonLoCk antes 25
aaajack antes 25
bfunkadunk antes 25
gboro780 antes 25
S_Dot111 antes 25
Padlec87 antes 25
isejbin antes 25
sd_hang_10 antes 25
aaajack posts the small blind of 120
bfunkadunk posts the big blind of 240
The button is in seat #1
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to gboro780 [Jc Qc]
bfunkadunk has been disconnected
bfunkadunk has reconnected
gboro780 raises to 640
S_Dot111 folds
Padlec87 folds
isejbin folds
sd_hang_10 folds
NutZonLoCk folds
ItzGoTime sits down
ItzGoTime adds 3,652
aaajack folds
bfunkadunk calls 400
*** FLOP *** [Ks Jd Kh]
bfunkadunk has 15 seconds left to act
bfunkadunk checks
gboro780 checks
*** TURN *** [Ks Jd Kh] [9s]
bfunkadunk bets 240
gboro780 calls 240
*** RIVER *** [Ks Jd Kh 9s] [4d]
bfunkadunk has 15 seconds left to act
bfunkadunk bets 480
gboro780 has 15 seconds left to act
gboro780 raises to 1,460

Exitonly 11-21-2007 07:51 PM

Re: thoughts on these hands
 
1. call
2. raise 1050
3. allin
4. i probably just call the river; i think you could get JT to fold to the raise, but AJ wont.

WarDekar 11-21-2007 07:57 PM

Re: thoughts on these hands
 
[ QUOTE ]
1. call
2. raise 1050
3. allin
4. i probably just call the river; i think you could get JT to fold to the raise, but AJ wont.

[/ QUOTE ]

Agree with all, you aren't gonna get called by a whole lot on the river of #4 that you beat, of course everything that beats you is calling.

#1 I think anything but calling is pretty bad personally

#2 gotta re-raise

#3 This is a spot where if you're behind oh well, but you have to get the chips in now if you're ahead so shove because turns can bring all sorts of bad things

furfur 11-21-2007 07:59 PM

Re: thoughts on these hands
 
1)hand one u should fold preflop. too many players to act behind u and do a squeeze
2)probably just call as you'll have position. squeeze isn't bad here either but I don't know how I'd react to a rejam from original raiser so calling seems like best option
3)I can't see folding here. This guy called in small blind and while it's conceivable he did so w/ something like a,4 or 4,5s most times he has a 7 here or a pocket pair lower than you. If he had a 4, he'd be more likely to slow play and allow u to catch up. i'd rejam here and be happy about it.
4)fold preflop. I don't understand ur river raise at all. was that for value? definitely just call. Ur only beating a pair of nines here and he would probably fold it to ur raise there.

furfur 11-21-2007 08:00 PM

Re: thoughts on these hands
 
ur not worried about rejam w/ hand 2? would u call it?

Mench 11-21-2007 09:03 PM

Re: thoughts on these hands
 
1 flat
2 allin
3 allin
4 call

Exitonly 11-21-2007 09:41 PM

Re: thoughts on these hands
 
[ QUOTE ]
ur not worried about rejam w/ hand 2? would u call it?

[/ QUOTE ]

if any of the people that already put money into the pot jam i obv call. if someone cold 4 bet jams after all this action, i guess i could consider folding ... but still probably woudlnt.

Bakes 11-21-2007 09:52 PM

Re: thoughts on these hands
 
eyes bleeding from multiple unconverted hands.

www.legopoker.com has a hand history converter

Pudge714 11-21-2007 10:17 PM

Re: thoughts on these hands
 
1. Call
2. Call
3. Shove
4. Is river for value?

gboro 11-21-2007 10:37 PM

Re: thoughts on these hands
 
hand 4 is for value. if you check the bet sizing i made it 640 preflop and by the river he's only betting 480. doesn't it seem like he would bet more with Kx or QT? i was pretty sure he had a jack or 9 and if i can successfully narrow him down to that then i'm only behind one hand with JQ. is this a reach?


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