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bluesbassman 11-01-2007 11:25 PM

Stars $162: Resteal w/ AJ?
 
Unknown villain, no read.

Poker Stars, $150 + $12 NL Hold'em Tournament, 200/400 Blinds, 9 Players
LegoPoker Hand History Converter

CO: 8,669
BTN: 13,590
Hero (SB): 8,551
BB: 7,875
UTG: 6,315
UTG+1: 3,086
UTG+2: 17,164
MP1: 9,390
MP2: 16,711

Pre-Flop: (780) J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] Ahttp://www.legopoker.com/hh/images/diamond.gif dealt to Hero (SB)
5 folds, <font color="red">CO raises to 2,000</font>, BTN folds, Hero ?

Bond18 11-02-2007 12:20 AM

Re: Stars $162: Resteal w/ AJ?
 
If by resteal you mean make a standard shove that's more so for value, then yes. All in!

JustChillin 11-02-2007 12:35 AM

Re: Stars $162: Resteal w/ AJ?
 
i would need a good reason to fold this, callings not an option, shove

Al Smooth 11-02-2007 02:35 AM

Re: Stars $162: Resteal w/ AJ?
 
Shovey Shoverson

shaundeeb 11-02-2007 04:31 AM

Re: Stars $162: Resteal w/ AJ?
 
I FOLD.

and that means it's a fold.

mlagoo 11-02-2007 05:10 AM

Re: Stars $162: Resteal w/ AJ?
 
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If by resteal you mean make a standard shove that's more so for value, then yes. All in!

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did you notice that blinds are 2/4, not 4/8?

i think this is quite close, and my answer would depend on how much i hated the player. but since i hate 90% of the people i play with, id probably shove. [censored] that guy.

Bond18 11-02-2007 10:40 AM

Re: Stars $162: Resteal w/ AJ?
 
[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]
If by resteal you mean make a standard shove that's more so for value, then yes. All in!

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did you notice that blinds are 2/4, not 4/8?

i think this is quite close, and my answer would depend on how much i hated the player. but since i hate 90% of the people i play with, id probably shove. [censored] that guy.

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Oh wow, good catch Matt, i saw the raise and i'm like "are we really talking 10 BB shove with AJo vs CO 2.5X raise?"

Now that i see this, i think i like a fold given peoples 4 and 5X'ing ranges. Sorry bout that OP.

HatesLosing 11-02-2007 02:18 PM

Re: Stars $162: Resteal w/ AJ?
 
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Unknown villain, no read.

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Not specifically dissing the OP, but I've noticed a trend through the years and it's that 9 out of 10 posts on hand advice say "no reads" or "unknown villain". You can't always have a good read, or any at all, but somehow I'm starting to guess that not many people out there are using PT and other programs/services to maximize the amount of information they have about their opponents.

[End of O/T Rant]

IMO, it's very close here. Without a read it's very difficult to get a good estimate of your FE if you shove, but it makes all the difference as to what the right move is. Your opponent folding 1 in 5 times vs. 1 in 4 vs. 1 in 3 clearly makes a HUGE difference in your chip EV if you shove. You'd also prefer to be in the BB, not SB, if you shove (kind of minor, but sometimes BB will wake up with a monster). I'd most likely fold here, but the circumstances don't have to be too different (i.e., just a small read on my opponent and in BB) for me to shove pretty quickly.

bigballz 11-02-2007 05:14 PM

Re: Stars $162: Resteal w/ AJ?
 
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I FOLD.

and that means it's a fold.

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