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mattiesmat 11-28-2007 12:27 PM

$16 - J8s vs solid regular
 
BB was 19/13, was multitabling and seemed solid.
How is this?

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t150 (5 handed) by Hand Converter CG

Button (t1575)
Hero (t3565)
BB (t3775)
UTG (t2640)
MP (t1945)

Preflop: Hero is SB with J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to t400</font>, BB calls t250.

Flop: (t800) Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 3[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
Hero checks, BB checks.

Turn: (t800) A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets t500</font>, BB calls t500.

River: (t1800) 4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">BB bets t2875 (All-In)</font>, Hero folds.

Final Pot: t4675

RexWoo 11-28-2007 12:34 PM

Re: $16 - J8s vs solid regular
 
I don't like it.

Pf is ok I suppose. Then I check it down.

If you want to bet, do it on the flop.

Jaqrabbit 11-28-2007 12:48 PM

Re: $16 - J8s vs solid regular
 
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I don't like it.

Pf is ok I suppose. Then I check it down.

If you want to bet, do it on the flop.

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Agree. As played, I never ever ever call that river bet.

_Towelie_ 11-28-2007 12:54 PM

Re: $16 - J8s vs solid regular
 
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I don't like it.

Pf is ok I suppose. Then I check it down.

If you want to bet, do it on the flop.

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Agree. As played, I never ever ever call that river bet.

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lol who does? I think OP wanted comments on earlier streets. PF is probably fine tho I usually just fold here. As played I'd cbet 400 on the flop then c/f if he calls.

TruFloridaGator 11-28-2007 12:56 PM

Re: $16 - J8s vs solid regular
 
What solid reg is 19/13? Seems pretty loose for a solid reg. I might complete pf but I'm done with the hand after the flop as played. c/f

Takeover_inc 11-28-2007 01:16 PM

Re: $16 - J8s vs solid regular
 
I would just complete pre flop. I hate raising out of the small blind with a marginal hand while the stacks are deep for 1. 2, i hate getting called and having to play my hand OOP in a bloated pot.

There isn't much of a reason to get too active in this spot. If you want complete, but a raise seems like a leak.

mattiesmat 11-28-2007 01:36 PM

Re: $16 - J8s vs solid regular
 
I don't think raising pre is that bad. I think he will fold like 80% of the hands.
I did not bet the turn, because he might have called with a Q or K.
I bet on the turn to represent a hearth flush.
Is that really that bad?
If he has not got a high heart doesn't he have a hard time calling?

TruFloridaGator 11-28-2007 01:38 PM

Re: $16 - J8s vs solid regular
 
Yeah, I don't hate the turn bet, it's cool.

mattiesmat 11-28-2007 01:39 PM

Re: $16 - J8s vs solid regular
 
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What solid reg is 19/13? Seems pretty loose for a solid reg. I might complete pf but I'm done with the hand after the flop as played. c/f

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What stats has a solid reg in your experience then?

KCW12 11-28-2007 01:50 PM

Re: $16 - J8s vs solid regular
 
I think just completing preflop is bad. You are out of position the rest of the hand, and by showing weakness, you are giving villain a chance to push you out before you see a flop. I don't mind the raise, though folding isn't bad either. As played, I probably cbet the flop but shut down if I get called.


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