Saving the Earth from people
 

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What we have here is a woman convinced she can save the planet with abortion and sterilization, at least for herself.

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Because when Toni terminated her pregnancy, she did so in the firm belief she was helping to save the planet.

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At the age of 27 this young woman at the height of her reproductive years was sterilised to "protect the planet".

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"Having children is selfish. It's all about maintaining your genetic line at the expense of the planet," says Toni, 35.

"Every person who is born uses more food, more water, more land, more fossil fuels, more trees and produces more rubbish, more pollution, more greenhouse gases, and adds to the problem of over-population."


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Consider for a moment the foundation of her premise. Population is on a Malthusian geometric spike to Pluto (Neptune now?). While population prognostication involves both agenda and forecasting, I'm convinced that total global population will stabilize near to 10 billion and will do so in two or three generations.

Clearly this woman is not the first do-gooder liberal to tilt at windmills. But look at what she endorses. Abortion for herself at least and quite possibly she'd advocate it across-the-board if given the power. Sterilization too, as above. Would she start some forced program if she had the means? Clearly, if sterilization is acceptable perhaps a pogrom is in order, since people are the problem. The limit of action she would consider is unknown but I does scare me knowing she's got company.

Lastly she states "Having children is selfish." and I must insist that as I examine the life choices of so many 20 somethings and 30 somethings, not having children is quite possible the most selfish act they choose. It's contrary to nature in the deepest way and an expression of self interest at its worst.

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No.

Artificially extended lives and abundant resources are unnatural. This is causing the scourge of overpopulation we're seeing around the world.

I hardly think people voluntarily sterilizing themselves are dangerous, especially compared to the threats from overpopulation and increasing technology.

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not having children is quite possible the most selfish act they choose

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Does it follow that not impregnating every woman I can (within the bounds of consent) is also selfish? If we put our mind to it most of could have impregnated a dozen women by 25.

If not, where do you draw the line, and why is your line valid and not someone else's?

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No.

Artificially extended lives and abundant resources are unnatural. This is causing the scourge of overpopulation we're seeing around the world.


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This is wrong. I'll let others elaborate.

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They're out there.

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This actually makes me happy, her genes will be eliminated from the pool and it will be one less kook we have to worry about.

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This actually makes me happy, her genes will be eliminated from the pool and it will be one less kook we have to worry about.

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QFT

Now, if only she'd abort herself so she can stop stealing my trees.

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The people who argue for resource conservation are usually the people who argue for transferring wealth from the rich to the poor. But if we are to conserve resources for a future generation to use, that future generation is going to be richer than us, so we are transferring wealth from the poor to the future rich. Doesn't make much sense to me!

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This actually makes me happy, her genes will be eliminated from the pool and it will be one less kook we have to worry about.

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I'm a little miffed that she hasn't simply killed herself. Now I have a rooting interest.

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What is so great about being "natural"? Is it natural to drive cars, take antibiotics, and post on the Internet?

Side question, what has convinced you the population will plateau at 10 billion? My gut says it's going to get more crowded than that...

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The earth doesn't give two [censored] about us.

Fleas on a dog.