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Guruman 07-31-2007 10:51 PM

standard vs minraise?
 
i've been running roughshod over the table, almost entirely with blind steals so i've probably got a near maniacal image. A combination of good cards and lots of weaktight folders have caused this. My table stats are 41/37, and villain has been around for most of that.


pf raise size has been adequate for blind purchases up to this point, so i havent put more in from the sb at this table pf.


Poker Stars
No Limit Holdem Ring game
Blinds: $0.10/$0.25
5 players
Converter

Stack sizes:
UTG: $41.20
CO: $24.35
Button: $30.90
Guruman: $77.95
BB: $17.20

Pre-flop: (5 players) Guruman is SB with K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]
3 folds, <font color="#cc0000">Guruman raises to $0.75</font>, BB calls.

Flop: 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 2[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] ($1.5, 2 players)
<font color="#cc0000">Guruman bets $1.25</font>, <font color="#cc0000">BB raises to $2.5</font>, Guruman calls $1.25 <font color="aaaaaa">(pot was $5.25)</font>.

Turn: J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] ($6.5, 2 players)
<font color="#cc0000">Guruman bets $4</font>, BB calls.

River: 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] ($14.5, 2 players)
Guruman checks, BB checks.

Results:
Final pot: $14.5

Guruman 08-01-2007 08:26 AM

Re: standard vs minraise?
 
guess so?

riske 08-01-2007 08:33 AM

Re: standard vs minraise?
 
Well played, with your image the minraise on the flop could very well just be a re-steal attempt. I think you might have some thin value on the river too, if you bet about half pot.

Nick C 08-01-2007 08:44 AM

Re: standard vs minraise?
 
It seems fine to be.

Guruman 08-01-2007 08:56 AM

Re: standard vs minraise?
 
main main dilemma in this hand is the river given how I played the flop/turn. It seems like this line is a standard 1 pr line, which leaves me in an awkward spot from oop on the river - especially given that I don't know how big of a bet to call there.

Maybe a smallish vb on the end is best after all, as much as a showdown blocking bet as anything.

Nick C 08-01-2007 09:04 AM

Re: standard vs minraise?
 
[ QUOTE ]
main main dilemma in this hand is the river given how I played the flop/turn. It seems like this line is a standard 1 pr line, which leaves me in an awkward spot from oop on the river - especially given that I don't know how big of a bet to call there.

Maybe a smallish vb on the end is best after all, as much as a showdown blocking bet as anything.

[/ QUOTE ]

Yeah, that sounds like a reasonable plan, especially given that it sounds like the table is playing defensively against your maniacal image rather playing back at you with big raises.

Peter Harris 08-01-2007 09:48 AM

Re: standard vs minraise?
 
yeah, a "blocking" river bet which may turn out to be VB may be best. Then you can bet/fold safely and extract a tad more value when you're ahead. That said, i see maybe AQ/ragged 2 pair slowing down here like this.

murmeltier21 08-01-2007 10:01 AM

Re: standard vs minraise?
 
bet 7 on the river and fold to a raise. rest seems fine to me

monkeymaps 08-01-2007 10:08 AM

Re: standard vs minraise?
 
I like the turn bet I often just check after getting minraised on the flop. is this a block/or a value bet here? just curious cause this is very non standard for me

murmeltier21 08-01-2007 10:14 AM

Re: standard vs minraise?
 
your line looks weird. i sometimes 3bet this flop and lead the turn and sometimes i call flop and bomb a brick on the turn. that Js is definately not a brick, but a blocking bet (that's what it is) seems fine to me. you can safely b/f this turn.
that 7 on the river is a block- value bet and again if you get raised you are def beat


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