The Moneymaker Effect Pt II - The Yang Addendum
 

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Moneymaker arose as televised poker (lipstack cams, etc.) and Internet Poker (Party, PS, etc.) were breaking out big in popularity. The fact that he looks like every dumb schmuck from middle America made it very easy for your average young male American to think -- HEY! if he could do it, I could do it!

Now, there are far fewer people that don't know about the existence of "organized" poker (as opposed to kitchen table poker), there are new impedements to playing online, and Jerry Yang isn't the folksy guy from the midwest. His effect on the poker world and the recruitment of new player will be far smaller than Moneymaker's.

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He will, however, be bringing the Jesus factor in. You can't buy that kind of booster.

Pretty soon we'll be seeing old guys get up from the table saying, 'Jesus, bring me my gutshot! Oh Lord, sweet Jesus Lord!', calling with 2:1 odds on the turn. This is going to be sweet.

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no. poker=busto.

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LMAO - Tennessee is now in the Midwest?

Re: The Moneymaker Effect Pt II - The Yang Addendum
 

Sorry to repeat this, but I don't get any feedback on why it isn't a good set of ideas:

1. some day it might take any WSOP champion to help the poker community by signing up with a rakefree poker site, to end the ridiculous prevalence of players' expectations that they have to pay a rake. Since it is hopeful that any new champion will have more than enough money to live on, and who might not even want to play poker much afterwards (a la Yang) a reasonable deal can be struck with a site such as wsex.com (and I am not advocating any specific site, rather the idea that if any sites offer something very generous and advantageous to players as a whole, then it seems that the collective intelligence would work to reciprocate capitalize on this eventually, in its own interests) where the champion could even hope that players could voluntarily opt for parts of their 100% rakeback be contributed to charities of their choice (hearkening back to a Yang-like disposition, though prior to Negreanu's move to stars I had suggested this idea several times--no doubt Negreanu knows what is best for him, but what about the rest of the poker paying public?) and this could even be done via the float's interest or parlaying sports bets with charity to get that extra entertainment bang.

Are you following me so far? (and yes, it doesn't take brains to try and shoot it down, rather, it takes persistence and brains to get this idea started).

2. collective power amongst poker players can do several amazing and positive things if channeled logically. For instance, the concept of tipping in a more centralized manner (again with free choice for all) where players opt out of the usual routine (wear a button and tell your dealer) and contribute to an annual (or any periodic) award, however imperfectly constructed, to the best dealers in the world. We are talking about tips that must exceed $100M to $200M annually, so why not disburse these through fairly audited and judged merit based metrics? The joke being that an annual $100M winner-take-all (just one variant) prize would facilitate a quantum leap in dealing quality and you'd get brain surgeons vying for that prize, hence a better pool of talent for new dealers. Meanwhile, casinos would have to pick up the slack and pay decent wages etc. during the quick transition. Imagine any dealer paying attention so carefully all year to keep the lowest error rate possible and to be fair to all players, and whatever else it takes to excel, etc. The best deserve to be rewarded, (it's the American way, lol) the general manner with which most of us are ROUTINELY tipping today UTTERLY AND UNEQUIVOCALLY FAILS TO ACHIEVE MUCH OF ITS PURPOSE AND POTENTIAL.

It's not the specificity of the ideas I'm pushing that matters, but the lost opportunities of MANY well-considered methods of improving the QUALITY AND VALUE OF EXPERIENCE FOR ALL POKER PLAYERS THAT IS VERY PUZZLING TO ME.

The reason it doesn't happen is only because unorganized players play for various other reasons, entertainment, compulsion, and action.

Once we use our heads, with the appropriate reasoning and talent, guys like Raymer, Lederer, Ferguson, Bloch, Negreanu and any next generic champion could wake up and lead us.

I'd lead but you guys don't know who the hell I am.

So step up, somebody. Please. [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]

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tl;dnr

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A) Not even close

B) People saying he will bring the Jesus factor is just silly. ESPN will very likely not broadcast all that crap he said during allins

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tl;dnr

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Hey. Thanks for taking your precious time to post.

Guess you prefer books with pictures, eh? [img]/images/graemlins/mad.gif[/img]

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B) People saying he will bring the Jesus factor is just silly. ESPN will very likely not broadcast all that crap he said during allins

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I certainly hope they don't. If the live PPV hadn't broadcast that or his screams, he would have been a lot more popular with everyone.