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Cry Me A River 10-23-2006 09:48 PM

Stars New Rakeback Values for $100NL and $200NL Full Ring
 
Fixed to use MGR instead of rake. Please put down your torches and pitchforks.

I've used my own PT stats for the last couple months.

All numbers below reflect the new FPP thresholds.

Using 1FPP=$.015


NL$100 Full Ring
VPIP: 22.54
Total Hands: 138388
Hands rake .40 or more: 58368
Hands rake $3: 6961
Total VPP generated: 65329
Ave VPP/hand: .47
Total rake: $5586.85
MGR: $10012.93

Bronze FPP: 65329 = $979.94 = 10% rakeback based on MGR
Silver FPP: 97993 = $1469.90 = 15% rakeback based on MGR
Gold FPP: 130658 = $1959.87 = 20% rakeback based on MGR
Platinum FPP: 163322 = $2449.83 = 24% rakeback based on MGR
Supernova FPP: 228651 = $3429.77 = 34% rakeback based on MGR


NL$200 Full Ring
VPIP: 19.20
Total Hands: 21082
All hands rake .40: 11350
All hands rake $3: 2311
Total VPP: 13661
Ave VPP/hand: .65
Total rake: $1082.25
MGR: $2184.39

Bronze FPP: 13661 = $204.92 = 9% rakeback based on MGR
Silver FPP: 20491 = $307.37 = 14% rakeback based on MGR
Gold FPP: 27322 = $409.83 = 19% rakeback based on MGR
Platinum FPP: 34152 = $512.28 = 23% rakeback based on MGR
Supernova FPP: 47813 = $717.20 = 33% rakeback based on MGR


Keep in mind Platinum and Supernova players are rare at these levels. Most players are Gold or less.

Average hands required for level:

NL$100 Full Ring
Silver: 3192 hands/month
Gold: 8511 hands/month
Platinum: 21277 hands/month
Supernova: 212766 hands/year

NL$200 Full Ring
Silver: 2308 hands/month
Gold: 6154 hands/month
Platinum: 15385 hands/month
Supernova: 153846 hands/year

So all you other low-limit guys thinking of pushing for Supernova by the end of the year?

Do it!!!!!

kslghost 10-23-2006 09:53 PM

Re: Stars New Rakeback Values for $100NL and $200NL Full Ring
 
Doesn't sound right...

SoCalRugger 10-23-2006 09:55 PM

Re: Stars New Rakeback Values for $100NL and $200NL Full Ring
 
Wow. I was happy seeing the 24.5% number at 1/2 6-max before reading this thread. Now all I can think about it how badly 6-max players get [censored] over.

But are you calculating RB percentages based on the total rake paid in the General Info tab? Or by MGR numbers on the Games Notes tab? Because if it's the first method, then you can't make a direct comparison to Full Tilt RB.

Cry Me A River 10-23-2006 09:58 PM

Re: Stars New Rakeback Values for $100NL and $200NL Full Ring *DELETED*
 
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William 10-23-2006 10:00 PM

Re: Stars New Rakeback Values for $100NL and $200NL Full Ring
 
Supernovas are getting 66% RB and Goldstars 38%?
Have you been drinking from the nighty potty? [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]

SoCalRugger 10-23-2006 10:00 PM

Re: Stars New Rakeback Values for $100NL and $200NL Full Ring
 
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Wow. I was happy seeing the 24.5% number at 1/2 6-max before reading this thread. Now all I can think about it how badly 6-max players get [censored] over.


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What Star level?

Is that using the new $2 rake threshold for the bonus VPP? That should make a huge difference.

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ata's numbers for 'nova under the new rules gives 24.5% for 1/2NL 6-max. TheMeteron's numbers backed this up, as do my numbers over a couple thousand hands so far.

T50_Omaha8 10-23-2006 10:09 PM

Re: Stars New Rakeback Values for $100NL and $200NL Full Ring
 
A simple check fo the math checks out for me:

Say a FR hand is raked $.40 and a player has supernova status. The player gets 3.5 FPP, which are worth $.015 each, so he gets $.0525 in return, while each player only contributed $.04 in rake in the first place. Thaqt's the complete optimal situation, but it does show that absurdly high RB can be had through this system.

My question is, why the hell does this include up to $1/$2 blind NL games but only up to $1/$2 fixed limit? $100NL is a way bigger game than $1/$2 limit. Still a big improvement, although after reading this thread they probably get rid of it.

SoCalRugger 10-23-2006 10:11 PM

Re: Stars New Rakeback Values for $100NL and $200NL Full Ring
 
The math is correct - but he needs to redo the calculations based of MGR numbers, not total rake paid, if you want to make a direct comparison to Full Tilt.

FWIW, here's what ata came up with - about half of what OP is getting. 6-max players still get [censored].

NEW NUMBERS (Bronze/Silver/Gold/Platinum/Supernova)

100NL Full Ring 9.6% 14.4% 19.1% 23.9% 33.5%
200NL Full Ring 9.1% 13.7% 18.3% 22.8% 31.9%
200NL 6max 7.0% 10.5% 14.0% 17.5% 24.5%

TheMetetron 10-23-2006 10:13 PM

Re: Stars New Rakeback Values for $100NL and $200NL Full Ring
 
General info tab is your problem. That's why it is so high.

Cry Me A River 10-23-2006 10:18 PM

Re: Stars New Rakeback Values for $100NL and $200NL Full Ring
 
Edited to use MGR instead of rake. Now tops out at 33/34%.

Sorry guys!


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