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Performify 10-30-2007 12:24 AM

*** OFFICIAL 11/05/07 NFL MNF (Monday) GAME THREAD (BAL @ PIT)***
 
BAL @ PIT on Monday Night Footbal, NFL week 9.

psuasskicker 10-30-2007 08:35 AM

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Line opened at 7.5 and moved to 9+ (10 at Bodog!) in a flash. Baltimore's coming off a bye, getting healthy and historically has played very tough in Pittsburgh. I typically never bet on the Ravens but I may have to break my own rule here... +10 is way too attractive a line IMO.

- C -

Jazzy3113 10-30-2007 02:00 PM

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I think its a perfect game to wong tease. Pitt looks good and Baltimore O looks anemic. I was able to place a bet at -8.5 but it looks like its settled at -9 making it a slightly not a true wong.

tnn4731 10-30-2007 06:21 PM

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Im sure I like the Pittburgh Steelers and I dont care about the point spread. It will cover

TooTallT 10-30-2007 06:43 PM

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Im sure I like the Pittburgh Steelers and I dont care about the point spread. It will cover

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Great! I'll take Baltimore (+94). PM me for payment details.

Jazzy3113 10-30-2007 07:04 PM

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lol, pm sent

psuasskicker 10-30-2007 10:45 PM

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Im sure I like the Pittburgh Steelers and I dont care about the point spread. It will cover

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LOL... Kinda like @ Denver?

I'm wondering if Pitt is gonna be a BSP two weeks after they were a BSP that got killed ATS. I'm on if this one crosses into double digits...maybe small ML play too.

- C -

Performify 11-05-2007 12:04 PM

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official thread

Sportsnpoker 11-05-2007 12:24 PM

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As stated in other thread

Under 37/36.5 easy money

Jazzy3113 11-05-2007 12:45 PM

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no such thing as easy money, but ima lean this way too.

Nonfiction 11-05-2007 01:02 PM

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Im sure I like the Pittburgh Steelers and I dont care about the point spread. It will cover

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LOL... Kinda like @ Denver?

I'm wondering if Pitt is gonna be a BSP two weeks after they were a BSP that got killed ATS. I'm on if this one crosses into double digits...maybe small ML play too.

- C -

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I'm considering a donk teaser of Baltimore +16/u42 for a unit, just because it will motivate me to actually watch this game. I hate the ravens but they always play Pitt well. I'd go the other way and have Pitt -3 but only have monies on Bodog so can't line shop, and don't like Pitt -4.

CrushinFelt 11-05-2007 02:03 PM

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Ravens +10 is the 4th leg of a 4-teamer paying 10-1

Under 36.5 is the 5th leg of a 5-teamer paying about 20-1.


Gogogo Ravens Defense!

KaponoFor3 11-05-2007 02:54 PM

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I am down on Ravens +16/under 43 teaser for a substantial amount. Apparently a 70% chance of rain in Pittsburgh tonight should mean both teams try to keep it on the ground. Pittsburgh has to be wary of the Ravens after the two blowouts from last year. However, both Ravens starting CB's are out, which could spell trouble on the deep ball. I just think getting 16 points, with these two defenses, is way too good to pass up. I could see a 14-10, 17-14, or 21-10 game. Either way, both the under and the +16 would cover. If the Ravens keep Parker under 100 yards, I think they keep it within a TD.

Curious as to what others think about this game.

h_ven 11-05-2007 03:06 PM

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I know you're not supposed to tease the points and the under, but how does everyone like this teaser?

Baltimore Ravens +10/+16
Ravens/Steelers Under 36.5/42.5

Thoughts?

KaponoFor3 11-05-2007 03:13 PM

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I know you're not supposed to tease the points and the under, but how does everyone like this teaser?

Baltimore Ravens +10/+16
Ravens/Steelers Under 36.5/42.5

Thoughts?

[/ QUOTE ]

I obviously like it because that is what I am down on as well, especially with the weather looking like it might not necessarily be conducive to the long ball.

h_ven 11-05-2007 03:36 PM

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Here are some trends I'm sure you've already looked at and taken into consideration.

Baltimore: 4-3 SU, 1-6 ATS
Pittsburgh: 5-2 SU, 5-2 ATS

Baltimore:
Average points scored = 17.71
Average points against = 17

Pittsburgh
Average points scored = 26.29
Average points against = 13

KaponoFor3 11-05-2007 03:48 PM

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[ QUOTE ]
Here are some trends I'm sure you've already looked at and taken into consideration.

Baltimore: 4-3 SU, 1-6 ATS
Pittsburgh: 5-2 SU, 5-2 ATS

Baltimore:
Average points scored = 17.71
Average points against = 17

Pittsburgh
Average points scored = 26.29
Average points against = 13

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Pittsburgh's points scored is pretty high -- 26.29. However, we have to look to their schedule to see the defenses they've played. CLE, BUF (not bad), SF, AZ, SEA, DEN, CIN. None of those are up to the same level as BAL defense, I think everyone can agree. Should be the first real challenge for Big Ben and the Pittsburgh O-Line. All of the other stats tend to support going UNDER here, especially on a teaser and with the weather.

AAmucked 11-05-2007 04:04 PM

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Pitt +110 -10

Jazzy3113 11-05-2007 05:52 PM

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I am doing pitt -2.5 and over 29.5

I want to protect against a Pitt rout which I think is the most likely scenario, followed by small Pitt win, and then a close Ravens upset. With Ravens D banged up I think Big Ben can pass all day long.

However, I have reduced my bet to just 1u as I see no clear edge anymore. I wish I bet the line when it was -8.

123xx456 11-05-2007 08:24 PM

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A couple of things to throw out there

Steelers might be fired up more then normal because they are bringing back the all time great steelers for that 75th anniversary team.

Also Todd Heap is out which imho really hurts the ravens short pssing game in the rain

Still up in the air on which way im going

CrushinFelt 11-05-2007 08:56 PM

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so sick about heap, mccallister, and rolle... that's redonkulous... +10 is still a lot for the steelers

aufan91 11-05-2007 09:03 PM

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Ravens +10
Ravens/SteelersUnder 36.5

Nonfiction 11-05-2007 10:19 PM

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Not lookin good for Baltimore.

rush66 11-05-2007 10:27 PM

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Under looking terrible.

DalaiLama 11-05-2007 10:30 PM

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I am doing pitt -2.5 and over 29.5

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Jenga

bmwguy525 11-05-2007 10:38 PM

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Way to go [censored] up the under on one opening quarter, Baltimore. Appreciate ya.

EDIT: McNair just fumbled again and all I can say is this: AAAAHAHAHAHAHAHA omfg and I thought my Eagles looked sad....

Jazzy3113 11-05-2007 10:42 PM

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why did i only bet 3 bills on this game. I was reading this thread and acted like a pussy.


Do you guys see any value in betting pitt in the 2nd half or u think they will put the scrubs in?

Jazzy3113 11-05-2007 10:55 PM

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As stated in other thread

Under 37/36.5 easy money

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have a nice 2nd half sweat

bmwguy525 11-05-2007 10:57 PM

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As stated in other thread

Under 37/36.5 easy money

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have a nice 2nd half sweat

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LOZL nice level

I've been laughing to myself since the second quarter started. This is amazing and sad both at the same time

Ray_bob 11-05-2007 11:04 PM

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well i know this may sound crazy but billick is a big part of the blame he has this illusion in his head that mcnair can throw from shotgun. situations like 2nd and 8 hes got him in shotgun formation instead of sticking with running the ball. i know there has been a lot of flukes and the corners cant cover pitt but this is just retarted lol. also instead of trying to wack the ball out of roethlisburgers hand maybe they should just tackle him

cata1yst 11-05-2007 11:14 PM

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This is sick. That's what happens when you turn the ball over 3 [censored] times on your own 30. Whole different game if they just got to 4th down and had to punt. Probably 10-0 at half. Jesus. I am pissed.

CrushinFelt 11-05-2007 11:16 PM

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this was depressing lol

Jazzy3113 11-05-2007 11:21 PM

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2nd half line is pk

NoChance 11-05-2007 11:21 PM

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This was awesome. Revenge from last year.

psuasskicker 11-06-2007 12:48 AM

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How is this Ravens team 4-4???

- C -

silentbob 11-06-2007 12:50 AM

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How is this Ravens team 4-4???

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Well, their wins came against the Jets, Cardinals, Rams, and 49ers.

psuasskicker 11-06-2007 12:54 AM

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How is this Ravens team 4-4???

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Well, their wins came against the Jets, Cardinals, Rams, and 49ers.

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It's hard to imagine this team is better than any of those other than maybe the Rams...

- C -

shipitkthx 11-06-2007 12:55 AM

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How long until the PIT/CLE line opens? And any guesses?

prodonkey 11-06-2007 01:43 AM

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How is this Ravens team 4-4???

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Well, their wins came against the Jets, Cardinals, Rams, and 49ers.

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It's hard to imagine this team is better than any of those other than maybe the Rams...

- C -

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they have the better D than those teams, which is why they can beat the bottom of the barrel teams.

Post-Oak 11-06-2007 02:53 AM

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How long until the PIT/CLE line opens? And any guesses?

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Prior to Sunday it was available as PIT -10. I can't see it being outside the -10 to -13 range.

I am gonna guess -10.5


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