NL100: Overpair on 4straight3flush board - value there?
 

4th hand on table, no real reads but villain was playing all 3 hands before, therefore probably bad.

is there value in a riverpush? villain has 56$ left. i think rest is standard (but my CB should have been a little higher).

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $1.00 BB (6 handed) Poker Stars Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

Hero ($104)
Button ($151.45)
SB ($162)
BB ($240.15)
UTG ($100)
MP ($98.40)

Preflop: Hero is CO with K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]. UTG posts a blind of $1.
UTG (poster) checks, MP calls $1, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $6</font>, <font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, UTG folds, MP calls $5.

Flop: ($14.50) Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
MP checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $10</font>, MP calls $10.

Turn: ($34.50) 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
MP checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $26</font>, MP calls $26.

River: ($86.50) 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
MP checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero ?</font>

Re: NL100: Overpair on 4straight3flush board - value there?
 

Just trying to think of something he could call a shove here with as played. Absent of stats/reads it's tough. How did he play previous 3 hands???

If you think there's good chance of getting a call from a Q10/QJ then sure. if not check behind. depends how bad he really is. Completely absent of ANY reads it's tough.

Re: NL100: Overpair on 4straight3flush board - value there?
 

Meh I find in these spots my unknown opponents are too stubborn against me to fold a Q so I shove.

Re: NL100: Overpair on 4straight3flush board - value there?
 

As played he's not gonna have 2 clubs a 4 or a 9 very often. I think I like shoving here. FWIW bet more on flop and turn both.

Re: NL100: Overpair on 4straight3flush board - value there?
 

so you are putting him on 4 hands?
AQ KQ QJ QT

Re: NL100: Overpair on 4straight3flush board - value there?
 

Im starting to take shots at 100NL, generally a 50nl player. Against an unknown who just played the last 3 hands, I would be checking behind almost 100% of the time here. Is this a huge leak? Should I be vpushing?

I would think villain is calling with Q10+ for hands we beat. Villain is also pushing this river with a made straight most of the time. Flush is kind of out of the picture. Its more of a 2pair that I would be more worried about. I dunno, pushing seems more correct to me now.

Re: NL100: Overpair on 4straight3flush board - value there?
 

i think hands that have you beat raise the turn (except for something like T9, but sets and two pair and similar have to raise, since the board is becoming dangerous and you seem to like your hand). i think i'd push here, because it looks really bluffy and you'll get called a lot with worse hands also because it looks like you either have it or are bluffing (it's hard to put you on KK here, if you push). against a player who knows that, you are getting called with queens. against a player who only sees his cards this move may induce a fold from a better hand.

Re: NL100: Overpair on 4straight3flush board - value there?
 

imo villain could easily cc or crai river strait.

Re: NL100: Overpair on 4straight3flush board - value there?
 

i shove to get looked up by a Q. i dont think a check behind is a huge error

Re: NL100: Overpair on 4straight3flush board - value there?
 

so is this a very thin situation? I'm in the same boat as spacetime, and trying to understand just how much I suck compared to SS and MS players.