Aces deep nl 25
 

No reads because i was 15 tabling, whats my best way to play this flop once i get raised?. I know the other big stack isnt doing this with nothing, should i just call and look to get it in on a safe turn card or is shoving and hoping to get payed from JJ/QQ/KK an alright play?, also is anyone folding this readless?.

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.25 BB (7 handed) Hand History converter Courtesy of PokerZion.com

UTG ($24.05)
MP1 ($23.90)
Hero ($71.10)
CO ($32.25)
Button ($42.95)
SB ($23.25)
BB ($15.35)

Preflop: Hero is MP2 with A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">MP1 raises to $0.5</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $2</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, Button calls $2, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, MP1 calls $1.50.

Flop: ($6.35) 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
MP1 checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $4.75</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Button raises to $14</font>, MP1 calls $14, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $69.1</font>, Button calls $26.95 (All-In), MP1 calls $7.90 (All-In).

Turn: ($138.30) 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players, 2 all-in)</font>

River: ($138.30) K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players, 2 all-in)</font>

Final Pot: $138.30

Re: Aces deep nl 25
 

Ugly, but once MP1 calls we can fold.

Re: Aces deep nl 25
 

You gave them odds to set mine, and it seems you payed their set mining strategy.
MP1 has also a full stack (around 96BBs), so the flat cold call on the flop is even scarier than a re-raise, as you can still re-pop it on the flop after a good sized lead on the flop.
So, after Button re-raises you huge, and MP1 flat calls, I agree your are probably beat here and drawing very thin, I would say more than 80% of the time at least.
When you do not have any read, at least take the time when you are facing this decision to check the hand history for the hands these players won.
If they didn't get out of line, the fold will be easier, and if they were pushing any two you can call confident.
Regards ...

Re: Aces deep nl 25
 

Just to point out, MP1 is short which seems to imply to me that he'll be calling looser (draws and such).

In the actual game I would fold, and make a note if I see button with 1pair or a draw. You're going to get to see their cards, and you do only have 1 pair with no reason to believe the villains don't have 2pair+.

Very read dependent spot.

Re: Aces deep nl 25
 

If it was just you and the button it would be fine to push, he may very well have JJ/QQ/KK, but when MP1, who min raised utg, overcalls the button's raise alarm bells should be ringing - mp1 can beat 1 pair. Time to fold.

Re: Aces deep nl 25
 

Thanks for the replies , button had 1010 mp1 had J8 suited

Re: Aces deep nl 25
 

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If it was just you and the button it would be fine to push, he may very well have JJ/QQ/KK, but when MP1, who min raised utg, overcalls the button's raise alarm bells should be ringing - mp1 can beat 1 pair. Time to fold.

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If we were heads up against button you would get it all-in on the flop? We're 178BB deep and raised to 8X preflop. {JJ+} being in button's range is pretty unlikely once you get it all-in.

Re: Aces deep nl 25
 

SPR is a bit high at 7 this deep. Better to get a bigger raise in preflop to see a SPR in the 5-6 range. Tough to let go you beat kk/qq/jj but I do not see these hands playing postflop this way. 99/tt are more likely and you are way behind. I think you gotta let this go on the re-raise and call.