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mosdef 11-30-2007 11:58 AM

$5+0.50 Extracting Value with the Nuts
 
PokerStars Tournament, Big Blind is t20 (9 handed) Converter on pregopoker.com

UTG (t1485)
UTG+1 (t1400)
MP1 (t1745)
MP2 (t1410)
MP3 (t1805)
CO (t1050)
Hero (t1275)
SB (t1350)
BB (t1980)

Preflop: Hero is in Button with Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]
<font color="gray">UTG folds</font>, <font color="gray">UTG+1 folds</font>, <font color="gray">MP1 folds</font>, <font color="gray">MP2 folds</font>, MP3 calls t20, <font color="gray">CO folds</font>, <font color="red">Hero raises to t80</font>, <font color="gray">SB folds</font>, <font color="gray">BB folds</font>, MP3 calls t60

Flop: (t190) 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 players)
MP3 checks, Hero checks

Turn: (t190) 2[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 players)
MP3 checks, <font color="red">Hero bets t120</font>, <font color="red">MP3 raises to t240</font>, Hero calls t120

River: (t670) K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 players)
MP3 checks, <font color="red">Hero bets t955 (All-in)</font>, <font color="gray">MP3 folds</font>

I think this is routine, but does anyone else take a different line?

rockstar626 11-30-2007 12:04 PM

Re: $5+0.50 Extracting Value with the Nuts
 
I like it. But I wonder, would a small donk like bet on river induce a bluff from villain?

KPL 11-30-2007 12:16 PM

Re: $5+0.50 Extracting Value with the Nuts
 
You don't have the nuts, DUCY? [img]/images/graemlins/cool.gif[/img]
I'm usually betting the flop, a king will call, and if neither of them have a king or better, it's hard to extract that many chips in any case. Guess some of the same goes for the river-hard to get any money if he doesn't have a king, but a smaller pair will perhaps call a smaller bet?

Jaqrabbit 11-30-2007 12:19 PM

Re: $5+0.50 Extracting Value with the Nuts
 
Agree with Rockstar. I think I make it maybe 200-300 to try to sell it on the river.

Also, a nitpick: QQ is not the nuts here. KK is the nuts, KQ is a better boat. But you've definitely got the best hand here, so kinda moot.

RexWoo 11-30-2007 12:30 PM

Re: $5+0.50 Extracting Value with the Nuts
 
Start building the pot on the flop. Tons of hand are going to call you there.

Jaqrabbit 11-30-2007 12:33 PM

Re: $5+0.50 Extracting Value with the Nuts
 
After reading Rex's post, I realized we had position (apparently I can't read). I like a flop bet too, maybe 1/3-1/2 pot.


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