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b33nz 08-07-2007 07:06 PM

making a \"bluff\" for my whole stack
 
sunday 215 warm up. still very early. villain has been playing pretty laggy and seems like he is capable of making moves. i think the only two hands he could have here that call and beat me are 77/44. i dont think he will call with any pair of queens (especially since he didnt raise PF which could eliminate AQ and possibly KQ). he could be on straight air or have 56/spades draw type hand. the reason im not straight "bluffing" here is i could end up getting called by a draw and win. thoughts?

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t100 (9 handed) internettexasholdem.com

UTG (t10400)
UTG+1 (t11875)
MP1 (t10400)
MP2 (t9850)
MP3 (t10850)
CO (t4550)
Button (t9950)
SB (t13350)
Hero (t8825)

Preflop: Hero is BB with 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">6 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Button raises to t300</font>, SB calls t250, Hero calls t200.

Flop: (t900) Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
SB checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets t550</font>, Button folds, <font color="#CC3333">SB raises to t2200</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to t8525</font>

Foucault 08-07-2007 07:21 PM

Re: making a \"bluff\" for my whole stack
 
Most of his draws have nearly 50% equity against you, I think he very rarely has a hand he's folding, and of course if he does have KQ or a set, he's got you crushed, so even if that's a rare occurrence, you're probably better off folding.

Bakes 08-07-2007 08:40 PM

Re: making a \"bluff\" for my whole stack
 
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I think he very rarely has a hand he's folding

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ditto. neither of you were the pfr, what can he really represent as a bluff here? what are you lead bluffing with that he can put you on? why lead this flop in the first place?

KneeCo 08-07-2007 09:01 PM

Re: making a \"bluff\" for my whole stack
 
I can't see how this is possibly profitable. I also don't like the flop lead.

Why are we reading anything but major strength in a stiff C/R from an OOP player who wasn't the pfr?

What does "straight bluffing" (sounds like a rap song) mean and why isn't that what this is? I don't see your push here as a semi-bluff if that's what you mean.

b33nz 08-07-2007 09:28 PM

Re: making a \"bluff\" for my whole stack
 
so do u guys check fold this regularly?

Bakes 08-07-2007 09:29 PM

Re: making a \"bluff\" for my whole stack
 
yea, like all the time.

b33nz 08-07-2007 09:35 PM

Re: making a \"bluff\" for my whole stack
 
thats kinda nitty, no?

Bakes 08-07-2007 09:38 PM

Re: making a \"bluff\" for my whole stack
 
are you bluffing or valuebetting?

Cornell Fiji 08-07-2007 10:21 PM

Re: making a \"bluff\" for my whole stack
 
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thats kinda nitty, no?

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no, because often I will have a hand like 56s that i can b-3b with.

I don't need to win every hand I play and this hand on this board with this action is not a hand I need to bluff with.

KingDan 08-08-2007 02:08 AM

Re: making a \"bluff\" for my whole stack
 
i like donking a bunch of flops but this is a terrible spot to


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