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obiedman 06-27-2007 05:03 PM

Top two facing Overbet Shove on River
 
Villain is ImAbOt on FTP, who i have as 23.5/12.8/1.63 (788). Earlier in the session I opened utg, he 3bet on the button, i 4bet and he called. Flop TTx I shoved, he called with QQ and stacked me with a Q on the turn.

A little while later I stacked him on a different table with Aq in a 3bet pot. Flop KJT and he check/shoved with AK.

Full Tilt Poker - No Limit Hold'em Cash Game - $2/$4 Blinds - 6 Players - (LegoPoker HH Converter)

SB: $292.00
BB: $431.00
UTG: $524.90
Hero (MP): $1,253.90
CO: $391.60
BTN: $782.40

Preflop: Hero is dealt A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (6 Players)
<font color="red">UTG raises to $14.00</font>, Hero calls $14.00, 2 folds, SB calls $12.00, BB folds

Flop: ($46) 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (3 Players)
SB checks, <font color="red">UTG bets $32.00</font>, <font color="red">Hero raises to $112.00</font>, SB folds, UTG calls $80.00

Turn: ($270) 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 Players)
UTG checks, Hero checks

River: ($270) A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">UTG bets all-in for $398.90</font>

recallme 06-27-2007 05:11 PM

Re: Top two facing Overbet Shove on River
 
You are afraid of 44/88,right? I think i would 3bet these OOP or try to c/r them on the flop. This is a ugly spot right now, but i wouldn`t feel good with calling here. He seams angry of missing his turn c/r.

catcher193 06-27-2007 05:16 PM

Re: Top two facing Overbet Shove on River
 
call, and I wouldn't dismiss 44/88/JJ from his hand range.

obiedman 06-27-2007 05:19 PM

Re: Top two facing Overbet Shove on River
 
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call, and I wouldn't dismiss 44/88/JJ from his hand range.

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they've obviously not dismissed, but i'd like to hear you're reasoning for calling. because you think he could have some other weird two pair, or you think he's bluffing?

dillip kothari 06-27-2007 05:20 PM

Re: Top two facing Overbet Shove on River
 
So his range here is 88/99/JJ/9Ts/A8s/AJ I don't know if he is capable of calling your raise on the flop with anything else. 44 is an unlikely raise from UTG with his numbers.
I think it is very close but I would be hard pressed to lay this one down. Crying call IMO.

recallme 06-27-2007 05:24 PM

Re: Top two facing Overbet Shove on River
 
A8s won`t call a flopraise. Idoubt he`s bluffing T9/99 here.
99 folds flop, too.

obiedman 06-27-2007 07:35 PM

Re: Top two facing Overbet Shove on River
 
[ QUOTE ]
You are afraid of 44/88,right? I think i would 3bet these OOP or try to c/r them on the flop. This is a ugly spot right now, but i wouldn`t feel good with calling here. He seams angry of missing his turn c/r.

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you really think he 3bets 44/88 on the flop? it's pretty dry so he doesn't have to worry about charging me for a draw. I think if he has 44/88 he most likely flat calls the flop and goes for a c/rai on the river. Since he's the PFR, I think c/r the flop would be pretty awkward, but I suppose it's a line that some people take every so often

FGators 06-27-2007 07:38 PM

Re: Top two facing Overbet Shove on River
 
Fold preflop. Not sure I like the flop raise. I'd be more inclined to call him, especially with somewhat nitty opening stats.

I think you are usually behind on the river. Tough spot.

imabot 06-28-2007 04:37 AM

Re: Top two facing Overbet Shove on River
 
Never call with anything less then trips here...

loz.. as i told u it was pride f00king with u..

with that said.. i love ur game in general..
ROCK ON !
ps. i run soooo bad...!


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