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Pokey 10-06-2007 06:10 PM

Not happy with the river card.
 
<font color="blue">Seems like a pretty straightforward hand, but I want to see what others say.

Villain runs about 56/17 preflop and 1.9 postflop over about 300 hands.</font>

Full Tilt Poker, $0.50/$1 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 6 Players
LegoPoker Hand History Converter

BB: $102.80
UTG: $52.50
Hero (MP): $179.80
CO: $472.15
BTN: $103.10
SB: $100.50

Pre-Flop: J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] dealt to Hero (MP)
UTG folds, <font color="red">Hero raises to $4</font>, 3 folds, <font color="red">BB raises to $10</font>, Hero calls $6

<font color="blue">Villain is passive enough preflop that I think I'm behind. I call to see if I can do some magic postflop.</font>

Flop: ($20.50) K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 Players)
BB checks, <font color="red">Hero bets $13</font>, BB calls $13

<font color="blue">I'm hoping villain has an underpair and I can bluff him off the hand. It doesn't look that way.</font>

Turn: ($46.50) T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 Players)
BB checks, <font color="red">Hero bets $40</font>, BB calls $40

<font color="blue">Hellooooooooo nuts! The board is a bit on the spooky side, so I bet strongly to protect from the boogeyman. I also put in a bit more than half his stack so that he can't get proper calling odds if he's drawing. Villain comes along for the ride.</font>

River: ($126.50) K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">BB bets $39.80 and is All-In</font>, Hero calls $39.80

<font color="blue">River cards don't get too much uglier than that one. The pot offers me better than 4-to-1 odds and I have the nut straight. Also, both flushes missed. Also, the turn bet was big enough to commit me to the pot. I make a crying call expecting to be beaten the majority of the time.</font>

What say you:

Was this a proper crying call?
Should I have been happy to call here?
Are my odds too thin to put in the last money?

Al_Money 10-06-2007 06:12 PM

Re: Not happy with the river card.
 
sigh and snap call.

the machine 10-06-2007 06:14 PM

Re: Not happy with the river card.
 
as long as you never fold getting 4:1 i will say NH sir

capodu 10-06-2007 06:18 PM

Re: Not happy with the river card.
 
its 4:1... and you beat nothing, you have to call just in case he has AQ, AJ, KQ, KJ, QJ

the machine 10-06-2007 06:21 PM

Re: Not happy with the river card.
 
[ QUOTE ]
its 4:1... and you beat nothing, you have to call just in case he has AQ, AJ, KQ, KJ, QJ

[/ QUOTE ]

you just rattled off everything he beats, and a busted draw.

blah-blah-blah 10-06-2007 06:27 PM

Re: Not happy with the river card.
 
wtf? why would you fold?

Zagga 10-06-2007 06:58 PM

Re: Not happy with the river card.
 
Fold preflop, I would only call there if the villain was also about 200bb deep.

I think you can better checkbehind flop and pray for a T. if you do want to bet (in case he has Jacks or Queens or something like that) I would make it at least $15.

River is a call, folowed by a slamming your desktop real hard.

Grue 10-06-2007 07:05 PM

Re: Not happy with the river card.
 
how do you fold this preflop? Villain is awful, oop, and made only a small reraise pf. I probably just shove the turn with those stacks, he's terrible and will bullet call with 2 pair+ and maybe even AQ AJ

orange 10-06-2007 08:11 PM

Re: Not happy with the river card.
 
played fine?

Rollos 10-06-2007 08:15 PM

Re: Not happy with the river card.
 
I check behind on the flop. I don't think you are folding out enough of his range. I call river.


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