2/4 - Playing super weak in this 3bet pot
 

Villain is a 21/18 semiregular. He's raised the button a little over aggro and this is the first time I've 3bet.

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $4 BB (6 handed) Poker Stars Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

MP ($668.55)
CO ($483.90)
Button ($633.10)
Hero ($620.60)
BB ($299.75)
UTG ($75)

Preflop: Hero is SB with J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Button raises to $16</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $65</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, Button calls $49.

Flop: ($134) K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 2[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
Hero checks, Button checks.

Turn: ($134) 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">Button bets $92</font>, Hero calls $92.

River: ($318) 4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">Button bets $228</font>, Hero folds.

Final Pot: $318

Re: 2/4 - Playing super weak in this 3bet pot
 

what's with the 16.25xBB reraise?

Re: 2/4 - Playing super weak in this 3bet pot
 

Thats my normal 3bet OOP.

Re: 2/4 - Playing super weak in this 3bet pot
 

JTo is not the hand to do 3bet with oop. Postflop looks ok, calling river would be ok also depending on villains tendencies.

Re: 2/4 - Playing super weak in this 3bet pot
 

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JTo is not the hand to do 3bet with oop.

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Why not, if he's stealing wide, it should be profitable.

Re: 2/4 - Playing super weak in this 3bet pot
 

I prefer a different hand to 3-bet with, like 75s or 22 but whatever. I know it seems like betting the flop turns your hand into a bluff, and in a way it does. But villain is going to have a weak hand here a ton and there's a decent amount of money in the pot so I don't mind taking it down now.

Another thing that makes me want to bet the flop and shutdown afterward is the fact that with the line you took, villain knows you have a weak made hand. Thus if he decides to bluff the turn he's usually bluffing the river. And if we're not willing to call 2 streets with this hand I'd rather just bet the flop and take it from there.

Also how's NY treating you? Thought you didn't have time for poker :P (this is Blake btw)

Re: 2/4 - Playing super weak in this 3bet pot
 

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JTo is not the hand to do 3bet with oop.

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Why not, if he's stealing wide, it should be profitable.

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this is actually not true at all

Re: 2/4 - Playing super weak in this 3bet pot
 

If you're 3-betting, then you should be betting this flop. Villians range, unless he just likes to donk float in 3-bet pots, is going to be pretty narrow on this flop. Now give me a break down on what % of the time you turn this hand into a bluff versus a value bet? [img]/images/graemlins/tongue.gif[/img]

Re: 2/4 - Playing super weak in this 3bet pot
 

Bet the flop. It's really unlikely he has much of a hand because KK will usually shove preflop vs your big RR and you have a jack so Jacks are down to 1 pair. I would try to play your hand strong as a bluff rather than try to get value.

Re: 2/4 - Playing super weak in this 3bet pot
 

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JTo is not the hand to do 3bet with oop.

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Why not, if he's stealing wide, it should be profitable.

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this is actually not true at all

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If he's willing to lay down the pot too often, why wouldn't it be?