J8o Turns OESD - Best Action?
 

Villain: 39/8/1.13/36

Poker Stars, $0.25/$0.50 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 6 Players
LegoPoker Hand History Converter

MP: $50.50
Hero (CO): $50.70
BTN: $66.35
SB: $125.65
BB: $31.45
UTG: $83.40

Pre-Flop: J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] dealt to Hero (CO)
2 folds, <font color="red">Hero raises to $2</font>, BTN calls $2, 2 folds

Flop: ($4.75) K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">Hero bets $3.50</font>, BTN calls $3.50

Turn: ($11.75) 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 Players)
Hero checks, <font color="red">BTN bets $3</font>, <font color="red">Hero raises to $12</font>, BTN calls $9

River: ($35.75) J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 Players)
Hero checks, <font color="red">BTN bets $12</font>

If I CR Turn do I fire River also?
Is Turn CR bad?
As played River fold is standard?

Thanks for help

Re: J8o Turns OESD - Best Action?
 

preflop: bad, wtf, awful.
flop: ok, but prob bet like 4.
turn: i have no clue, so many of those idiots will bet like a grain of sand into a mountain and obv call the raise. i'd flat call turn as played.
river: obviously fold but lol c/ring turn and lol donkcheck river imo.

turn c/r is bad imo. what do you put him on? what is his range? what will he fold to a raise there? this is a just a bad spot imo because you hit the Q and have an ldo straight, and run the (i guess slight) risk of having second nuts. flat call turn if you really are tempted to play (which you sort of have odds for but i don't know what to count as implied here), otherwise toss that shiz and tighten preflop imo.

Re: J8o Turns OESD - Best Action?
 

agree a lot with bk. pf is def meh, no need open the cutoff that lightly with a calling station behind you, just wait for better hands. flop again bet a little more. on the turn i'd fire a second bullet rather than c/r. c/c is bleh but hes giving you good odds. river as played is a fold.

Re: J8o Turns OESD - Best Action?
 

you realize i'm not raising J8o utg, right?

meh, maybe i need to re-asses pf standards.

thanks for reply, i agree Turn play makes no sense hence my post asking about it. i often c-bet Flop and give up Turn but that tiny bet tilts me i guess.

thx again

Re: J8o Turns OESD - Best Action?
 

i see your opening it from the cutoff. the button is a donk though, you want to play lots of hands in position against him not out of position. hes going to call you tons, your not going to have any problem gettin value from him with your strong hands. its not like hes folding j8, j9, j10, qj etc to your open very often. your gonnaa find yourself constantly in marginal spots where your not sure if your value betting or bluffing with these types of hands cause his range is so wide. no need to try to get fancy against these types, just play abc and let them give their money to you. thats why i think pf is meh, fwiw.

Re: J8o Turns OESD - Best Action?
 

good point. Turn c/r is stupid, pf is bad vs. this particular opponent to my left. ty