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dawade 11-13-2007 09:11 PM

Re: ***uNL Microbrew Thread*** NOV 2007 (ot)
 
[ QUOTE ]
if theres any interest im willing to bite the bullet and post the absolute WORST played hand ever by a 2+2er

[/ QUOTE ]

Post away. We've all played worse.

PJo336 11-13-2007 09:23 PM

Re: ***uNL Microbrew Thread*** NOV 2007 (ot)
 
Absolute Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $0.25 BB (6 handed) Hand History converter Courtesy of PokerZion.com

Button ($6.55)
SB ($23.70)
BB ($9.60)
UTG ($72.83)
Hero ($23.95)
CO ($14.95)

Preflop: Hero is MP with 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $1</font>, CO calls $1, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, SB calls $0.90, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>.

Flop: ($3.25) 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
SB checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $1.75</font>, CO calls $1.75, <font color="#CC3333">SB raises to $3.4</font>, Hero calls $1.75, CO folds.

Turn: ($11.90) 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
SB checks, Hero calls $19.45 (All-In), SB calls $19.20 (All-In).

River: ($50.55) 4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players, 2 all-in)</font>

Final Pot: $50.55


Absolute Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $0.25 BB (5 handed) Hand History converter Courtesy of PokerZion.com

Button ($22.48)
Hero ($59.30)
BB ($10.10)
UTG ($80.30)
MP ($9.40)

Preflop: Hero is SB with A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
UTG calls $0.25, MP calls $0.25, Button calls $0.25, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $2</font>, BB calls $1.75, UTG calls $1.75, MP folds, Button folds.

Flop: ($6.50) Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 3[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $4</font>, BB folds, <font color="#CC3333">UTG raises to $34</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $57.3 (All-In)</font>, UTG calls $23.30.

Turn: ($121.10) 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players, 1 all-in)</font>

River: ($121.10) 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players, 1 all-in)</font>

Final Pot: $121.10


i rule, 2nd hand he had Q4

bknollenberg 11-13-2007 09:38 PM

Re: ***uNL Microbrew Thread*** NOV 2007 (ot)
 
roflcopter.

PJO AND I GOT STAKED FOR FTOPS KNOCKOUT EVENT FTW.

ship it imo?

vixticator 11-13-2007 09:39 PM

Re: ***uNL Microbrew Thread*** NOV 2007 (ot)
 
I think I shove TT-JJ into overpairs in MTT's more than any other person. But, sucking out is great imo. [img]/images/graemlins/crazy.gif[/img]

vixticator 11-13-2007 09:40 PM

Re: ***uNL Microbrew Thread*** NOV 2007 (ot)
 
[ QUOTE ]
roflcopter.

PJO AND I GOT STAKED FOR FTOPS KNOCKOUT EVENT FTW.

ship it imo?

[/ QUOTE ]Niiiiiiiice. Take it down!

bknollenberg 11-13-2007 09:41 PM

Re: ***uNL Microbrew Thread*** NOV 2007 (ot)
 
[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]
roflcopter.

PJO AND I GOT STAKED FOR FTOPS KNOCKOUT EVENT FTW.

ship it imo?

[/ QUOTE ]Niiiiiiiice. Take it down!

[/ QUOTE ]
yea, guy that staked us is a 2+2er that doesn't post much but goes to school with me. imo he's the man. hoping to ship it so i can ship him a HUUUUUGE amount of money imo.

anyone else playing ftops knockout event?

PJo336 11-13-2007 09:48 PM

Re: ***uNL Microbrew Thread*** NOV 2007 (ot)
 
if i havent killed myself by then

bazooka87 11-13-2007 10:44 PM

Re: ***uNL Microbrew Thread*** NOV 2007 (ot)
 
[ QUOTE ]
My MTT journey begins today lads, wish me luck

[/ QUOTE ]
Coach me plz

neverforgetlol 11-13-2007 11:01 PM

Re: ***uNL Microbrew Thread*** NOV 2007 (ot)
 
I can't even beat NL25.

Poker Stars, $0.10/$0.25 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 5 Players
LeggoPoker Hand History Converter

Hero (BTN): $26.35
SB: $24.75
BB: $28.05
UTG: $35.45
CO: $13.60

Pre-Flop: 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] dealt to Hero (BTN)
2 folds, <font color="red">Hero raises to $1</font>, SB folds, BB calls $0.75

Flop: ($2.10) 2[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 Players)
BB checks, <font color="red">Hero bets $1.25</font>, BB calls $1.25

Turn: ($4.60) 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 Players)
BB checks, <font color="red">Hero bets $3</font>, BB calls $3

River: ($10.60) Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 Players)
BB checks, <font color="red">Hero bets $6.75</font>, BB calls $6.75

Results: $24.10 Pot ($1.15 Rake)
Hero showed 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (a flush, Queen high) and LOST (-$12 NET)
BB showed A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (a flush, Ace high) and WON $22.95 (+$10.95 NET)

well named 11-13-2007 11:10 PM

Re: ***uNL Microbrew Thread*** NOV 2007 (ot)
 
My first 2200-ish hands of 10NL. That was fun.

http://i112.photobucket.com/albums/n...named-10NL.jpg

fozzy71 11-13-2007 11:25 PM

Re: ***uNL Microbrew Thread*** NOV 2007 (ot)
 
Why do I always quickly win a BI or 2.... say, I should get off these tables and take a break..... then promptly lose a stack or 2 back?

Damn you Murphy - and to Hell with your Law.

Zychion 11-13-2007 11:37 PM

Re: ***uNL Microbrew Thread*** NOV 2007 (ot)
 
Playing too aggroid for 10NL? This level plays quite differently than 25NL and 50NL imo; fancy play can crush you here. I find a slightly passive approach with medium strength hands works well, and play big overpairs fast.

PJo336 11-13-2007 11:43 PM

Re: ***uNL Microbrew Thread*** NOV 2007 (ot)
 
http://img204.imageshack.us/img204/3315/wwsf9.jpg

what a [censored] month, good bye for a while brew [img]/images/graemlins/frown.gif[/img]

doppelganger 11-13-2007 11:45 PM

Re: ***uNL Microbrew Thread*** NOV 2007 (ot)
 
BOOOoooOOOOoooooo...m [img]/images/graemlins/frown.gif[/img]

bknollenberg 11-13-2007 11:47 PM

Re: ***uNL Microbrew Thread*** NOV 2007 (ot)
 
pjo call me pls hunny.

SkeetyMcdoogle 11-13-2007 11:50 PM

Re: ***uNL Microbrew Thread*** NOV 2007 (ot)
 
LOL pjo i got so much worse lemme dig it up

fozzy71 11-14-2007 12:12 AM

Re: ***uNL Microbrew Thread*** NOV 2007 (ot)
 
[ QUOTE ]
My first 2200-ish hands of 10NL. That was fun.

http://i207.photobucket.com/albums/b...d-10NLcopy.jpg



[/ QUOTE ]

FYP

well named 11-14-2007 12:19 AM

Re: ***uNL Microbrew Thread*** NOV 2007 (ot)
 
ty sir. Fortunately the diver swam away from deh chark. At least for now. (And fortunately I ran hotter than the sun at PLO during this period :P)

vixticator 11-14-2007 12:19 AM

Re: ***uNL Microbrew Thread*** NOV 2007 (ot)
 
My HUD puts me on tilt so bad at FT. It's always over the wrong players. GD it.

Know what else puts me on tilt? LAG's that always flop the nuts. DIAGF.

Also, poker tilts me. [img]/images/graemlins/tongue.gif[/img]

kaz2107 11-14-2007 12:22 AM

Re: ***uNL Microbrew Thread*** NOV 2007 (ot)
 
sigh... played an awsome sesh tonight and yet still couldnt manage a profit. then i go to look at all my hands and sure enough. 4 of my top 5 net winning hands were all stone cold bluffs. not one... not one... made hand made me n e money. so rigged

kaz2107 11-14-2007 01:13 AM

Re: ***uNL Microbrew Thread*** NOV 2007 (ot)
 
[ QUOTE ]
sigh... played an awsome sesh tonight and yet still couldnt manage a profit. then i go to look at all my hands and sure enough. 4 of my top 5 net winning hands were all stone cold bluffs. not one... not one... made hand made me n e money. so rigged

[/ QUOTE ]here r some carazy bluffs...



No Limit Holdem Ring game
Blinds: $0.50/$1
6 players
Converter

Stack sizes:
UTG: $195.50
UTG+1: $196
CO: $200
Hero: $225.75
SB: $153
BB: $28.90

Pre-flop: (6 players) Hero is Button with T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]
<font color="#cc0000">UTG raises to $4</font>, UTG+1 calls, CO folds, <font color="#cc0000">Hero raises to $16</font>, 3 folds, UTG+1 calls.

Flop: 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 3[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] ($37.5, 2 players)
UTG+1 checks, <font color="#cc0000">Hero bets $27</font>, <font color="#cc0000">UTG+1 raises to $60</font>, <font color="#cc0000">Hero raises all-in $209.75</font>, UTG+1 folds.
Uncalled bets: $149.75 returned to Hero.

Results:
Final pot: $157.5




No Limit Holdem Ring game
Blinds: $0.50/$1
5 players
Converter

Stack sizes:
Hero: $197.50
CO: $201
Button: $81.05
SB: $204.60
BB: $200

Pre-flop: (5 players) Hero is UTG with J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]
<font color="#cc0000">Hero raises to $4</font>, CO calls, 3 folds.

Flop: 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 5[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] ($9.5, 2 players)
<font color="#cc0000">Hero bets $7</font>, CO calls.

Turn: A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] ($23.5, 2 players)
<font color="#cc0000">Hero bets $17</font>, <font color="#cc0000">CO raises to $67</font>, <font color="#cc0000">Hero raises all-in $186.5</font>, CO folds.
Uncalled bets: $119.5 returned to Hero.

Results:
Final pot: $157.5



No Limit Holdem Ring game
Blinds: $0.50/$1
6 players
Converter

Stack sizes:
UTG: $57.59
Hero: $229.30
CO: $98.45
Button: $189.55
SB: $315.90
BB: $66

Pre-flop: (6 players) Hero is UTG+1 with 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]
UTG calls, <font color="#cc0000">Hero raises to $5</font>, CO folds, Button calls, 3 folds.

Flop: 3[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] ($12.5, 2 players)
<font color="#cc0000">Hero bets $10</font>, <font color="#cc0000">Button raises to $31</font>, Hero calls.

Turn: 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] ($74.5, 2 players)
<font color="#cc0000">Hero bets $55</font>, Button folds.
Uncalled bets: $55 returned to Hero.

Results:
Final pot: $74.5




and then the one that didnt work. lol.



No Limit Holdem Ring game
Blinds: $0.50/$1
6 players
Converter

Stack sizes:
Hero: $241.95
UTG+1: $174.40
CO: $47
Button: $27.50
SB: $207.20
BB: $201.90

Pre-flop: (6 players) Hero is UTG with 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]
<font color="#cc0000">Hero raises to $4</font>, 3 folds, SB calls, BB folds.

Flop: 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] ($9, 2 players)
SB checks, <font color="#cc0000">Hero bets $7</font>, <font color="#cc0000">SB raises to $28</font>, Hero calls.

Turn: 2[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] ($65, 2 players)
<font color="#cc0000">SB bets $54</font>, <font color="#cc0000">Hero raises all-in $209.95</font>, <font color="#cc0000">SB calls all-in $121.2</font>.
Uncalled bets: $34.75 returned to Hero.

River: 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] ($415.4, 0 player + 2 all-in - Main pot: $415.4)


Results:
Final pot: $415.4

carnivalhobo 11-14-2007 01:34 AM

Re: ***uNL Microbrew Thread*** NOV 2007 (ot)
 
[ QUOTE ]
My HUD puts me on tilt so bad at FT. It's always over the wrong players. GD it.

Know what else puts me on tilt? LAG's that always flop the nuts. DIAGF.

Also, poker tilts me. [img]/images/graemlins/tongue.gif[/img]

[/ QUOTE ]

do you have auto center turned on?

Dilznoofus 11-14-2007 01:40 AM

Re: ***uNL Microbrew Thread*** NOV 2007 (ot)
 
this is ridiculous. I've been 3bet 35 [censored] times today and every time I shove you nits have KK. I hate you all. How can you guys never have less than QQ?

thing85 11-14-2007 01:48 AM

Re: ***uNL Microbrew Thread*** NOV 2007 (ot)
 
Funny dog video FTW: http://video.stumbleupon.com/#p=lt16jr0xaf

vixticator 11-14-2007 01:53 AM

Re: ***uNL Microbrew Thread*** NOV 2007 (ot)
 
[ QUOTE ]
do you have auto center turned on?

[/ QUOTE ]No, like... it's all set up and works fine for everything but 6max NO LIMIT. 6max LIMIT hud display is fine. Works perfect. This makes zero sense.

creamfillin 11-14-2007 02:12 AM

Re: ***uNL Microbrew Thread*** NOV 2007 (ot)
 
Playing some Stud8. Losing my shirt.

vixticator 11-14-2007 02:22 AM

Re: ***uNL Microbrew Thread*** NOV 2007 (ot)
 
Stud8 is hard. Stud high is cake.

I busto'd out of 8 mtt's tonight, cashed in one other. Now I am straight pwning mofos in limit. This game comes so much easier for me. Why do I keep sucking at NL?

Bantam222 11-14-2007 02:24 AM

Re: ***uNL Microbrew Thread*** NOV 2007 (ot)
 
About to put in some serious grinding over the next few hours 2k-3k hands hopefully plz run goot

orlov 11-14-2007 02:27 AM

Re: ***uNL Microbrew Thread*** NOV 2007 (ot)
 
read his soul:

Ongame converter
CO ($56)
Hero ($45.15)
SB ($49.50)
BB ($17.95)
UTG ($148.85)

ANTES/BLINDS
SB posts blind ($0.25), BB posts blind ($0.50).


PRE-FLOP : Hero has 9http://ms12321.googlepages.com/club.gif 9http://ms12321.googlepages.com/diamond.gif
UTG bets $1, CO bets $3, Hero calls $3, SB folds, BB folds, UTG calls $2.

FLOP: 4http://ms12321.googlepages.com/spade.gif 6http://ms12321.googlepages.com/club.gif 8http://ms12321.googlepages.com/diamond.gif
UTG checks, CO bets $7, Hero calls $7, UTG calls $7.

TURN: 7http://ms12321.googlepages.com/club.gif
UTG checks, CO checks, Hero checks.

RIVER: 2http://ms12321.googlepages.com/club.gif
UTG bets $20, CO folds, Hero calls $20.


SHOWDOWN
Villain shows [ AC,8S ]
Hero shows [ 9C,9D ]
Hero wins $69.25.

bknollenberg 11-14-2007 02:41 AM

Re: ***uNL Microbrew Thread*** NOV 2007 (ot)
 
no offense but i think that's totally standard?

orlov 11-14-2007 02:47 AM

Re: ***uNL Microbrew Thread*** NOV 2007 (ot)
 
[ QUOTE ]
no offense but i think that's totally standard?

[/ QUOTE ]
mhh k, im too weaktight then, thought hed have his strait and this was only a tilt call :P

Berky 11-14-2007 03:42 AM

Re: ***uNL Microbrew Thread*** NOV 2007 (ot)
 
[censored] kalhhahahah just bubbled in a 24+2 sat to the FTOPS main event. 23 runners, first got a seat and i came second obv and I [censored] played the biggest donk station headsup and he flops two pairs and i flop top pair. kldhhklagsasdghkl'asdhk

kroeliewoelie 11-14-2007 05:36 AM

Re: ***uNL Microbrew Thread*** NOV 2007 (ot)
 
[ QUOTE ]
Stud8 is hard. Stud high is cake.

I busto'd out of 8 mtt's tonight, cashed in one other. Now I am straight pwning mofos in limit. This game comes so much easier for me. Why do I keep sucking at NL?

[/ QUOTE ]

That's quite obvious isn't it? Every other post you talk about being on tilt. That's not the best state to be playing poker in.

vixticator 11-14-2007 06:09 AM

Re: ***uNL Microbrew Thread*** NOV 2007 (ot)
 
[ QUOTE ]
That's quite obvious isn't it? Every other post you talk about being on tilt. That's not the best state to be playing poker in.

[/ QUOTE ]Yeah, it's difficult to make decisions for stack type bets on tilt. One of my bigger NL leaks is making a thin-ish value bet and calling raises. My game is extremely unbalanced in that I semibluff, value bet and fastplay everything which works brilliantly in limit. I need to check behind and slowplay in spots at NL but I can't quite figure out where. Meh.

In summary: Limit is elegant, balanced. No limit is erratic, confusing and tilts me.

Gelford 11-14-2007 06:26 AM

Re: ***uNL Microbrew Thread*** NOV 2007 (ot)
 
I like limit fishmax, but the thing with limit is that it is VERY read intensive. At 1/2 and below, you're against 60/10 type players, so ...

But once you hit 2/4 and above, you need reads. Your edge is soo small that one BB mistake erases 50-100 hands profit, while in NL whether your winrate is 7, 5 or 3 isn't as critical, so you can just accept 3 ptbb and fire up 8 tables instead to compensate if need be.


But playing 3 tables minbet fishmax is actually great fun.

ama0330 11-14-2007 06:29 AM

Re: ***uNL Microbrew Thread*** NOV 2007 (ot)
 
[ QUOTE ]
In summary: Limit is elegant, balanced. No limit is erratic, confusing and tilts me.

[/ QUOTE ]

Did you just say that limit is elegant???

vixticator 11-14-2007 06:46 AM

Re: ***uNL Microbrew Thread*** NOV 2007 (ot)
 
[ QUOTE ]
But playing 3 tables minbet fishmax is actually great fun.

[/ QUOTE ]I just play two and focus entirely on developing good reads and mixing up my game. Most players are far, far too aggro at .5/1 limit or too passive. People do seem to remember lines you take and just mix it up, c/r a lot in spots where it seems like you are folding to a bet. Showing down bluffs is great, sometimes do it a little bit too often. Do it a few times and they never fold Ace high, ever.

The lines aren't quite as complex IMO so it's easy to figure out what most people are doing. They notice what you are doing to some extent but do not alter their own game. Mostly just against aggro players, you can trap them for extra bets and get them to hopelessly bluff into pots. Against passive fish always use the same lines because who cares. Then the aggro players think you are using those exact lines on them. I dunno, it's fun as hell. Even when I lose.

kroeliewoelie 11-14-2007 07:37 AM

Re: ***uNL Microbrew Thread*** NOV 2007 (ot)
 
The site I play just changed the currency from dollars to euros. This means my 20NL game is now worth 1.46 times as much as before, because the players at 20NL are the same. Nice.

Only downside is that the maximum rake per pot hasn't been divided by the exchange rate.

munkey 11-14-2007 10:54 AM

Re: ***uNL Microbrew Thread*** NOV 2007 (ot)
 

Whats up uNL?

Been out the loop so long I went to play FT and thought something had gone down as they were very few tables.

Seems software update has a auto checked hide full tables -doh took me a while to work out -dumb munkey [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

I wouldn't say limit is elegant either more like stabbing yourself repeadetly with a rusty bluntish knife.

kaz2107 11-14-2007 11:28 AM

Re: ***uNL Microbrew Thread*** NOV 2007 (ot)
 
[ QUOTE ]

Whats up uNL?

Been out the loop so long I went to play FT and thought something had gone down as they were very few tables.

Seems software update has a auto checked hide full tables -doh took me a while to work out -dumb munkey [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

I wouldn't say limit is elegant either more like stabbing yourself repeadetly with a rusty bluntish knife.

[/ QUOTE ]welcome back... post more ldo

and i am with munkey in the group that says limit is lame as [censored]. how boring. if im not throwing 200bbs stack in the middle on the turn with air then im not enjoying myself [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]


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