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Mat 11-08-2007 08:32 AM

5/10 - QQ in 3-bet pot, K high flop
 
Villain is a donk 53/26/5 (65h), pretty aggressive.

No Limit Holdem Ring game
Blinds: $5/$10
6 players
Converter

Stack sizes:
UTG: $120.10
UTG+1: $1.019.10
Hero: $905.00
Button: $548.90
SB: $391.25
BB: $1.807.50

Pre-flop: (6 players) Hero is CO with Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]
UTG folds, <font color="#cc0000">UTG+1 raises to $40</font>, <font color="#cc0000">Hero raises to $140</font>, 3 folds, UTG+1 calls.

Flop: 4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] ($295, 2 players)
UTG+1 checks, Hero checks.

Turn: 3[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] ($295, 2 players)
<font color="#cc0000">UTG+1 bets $200</font>, Hero calls.

River: 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] ($695, 2 players)
<font color="#cc0000">UTG+1 bets $400,</font>


Call or fold river ?
Also, do you most prefer b/f the flop ?

Praetor 11-08-2007 09:20 AM

Re: 5/10 - QQ in 3-bet pot, K high flop
 
I call vs this guy

ipp147 11-08-2007 09:21 AM

Re: 5/10 - QQ in 3-bet pot, K high flop
 
I call, get shown K7o and then start tilting.

Mat 11-08-2007 11:30 AM

Re: 5/10 - QQ in 3-bet pot, K high flop
 
[ QUOTE ]
I call, get shown K7o and then start tilting.

[/ QUOTE ]

He had KK but I still started tilting.

So, you think my line is good, no one bets the flop ?

Laetus 11-08-2007 11:36 AM

Re: 5/10 - QQ in 3-bet pot, K high flop
 
As played I also call the river.

I like the check, it sucks if he CR bluff you on flop and you have to fold. Better to check and induce bluffs and bets from weaker hands.

NLMan 11-08-2007 11:50 AM

Re: 5/10 - QQ in 3-bet pot, K high flop
 
If he's a super aggro donk that NEVER folds, I would c/fold turn and wait for a better opportunity to play for stacks. As absurd as it sounds, many donks get monster stacks because some otherwise good players start doing stupid stuff like trying to bluff them or play for stacks with underpairs.

As weak as losing $140 with something that's most likely the best hand sounds, it'll most likely make him even more eager to bluff you next time when you'll actually have something like TPGK or an overpair.

I've learned my K7o lesson many many times in the past and I am not going to repeat my mistakes.

Oh ya, about b/f... Very read dependant (which is easy to get since he plays just about every hand). Some donks DO fold c-bets and some do fold later on and some learn to fold after watching you play. It is extremely important to watch every one of their hands since they are the ones you'll be playing.

whorasaurus 11-08-2007 12:09 PM

Re: 5/10 - QQ in 3-bet pot, K high flop
 
pretty sure i b/f 220 on the flop.

A__theKevlar__2 11-08-2007 02:27 PM

Re: 5/10 - QQ in 3-bet pot, K high flop
 
i call river

KingGordy 11-08-2007 04:28 PM

Re: 5/10 - QQ in 3-bet pot, K high flop
 
I would b/c $210 on the flop expecting this guy to shove any PP 77-JJ, any draw, random air etc. I think stacks are too shallow to comfortablly b/f.


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