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Loc0Loc0 11-27-2007 05:33 AM

NL100 --> JJ in RR-pot OOP ... 3way after 4way preflop action ...
 
I'm feeling really weak here. But cbetting flop is gross 2 i guess... I'm feeling like i have the best hand on teh turn but should i call or fold? Is preflop raise to smallish?

Villian CO is 34/15/1
Villian BTN is 19/15/2.5

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $1.00 BB (6 handed) Poker-Stars Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FlopTurnRiver Cards)

Hero ($121.20)
UTG ($104.10)
MP ($52.30)
CO ($61.90)
Button ($122.45)
SB ($99.50)

Preflop: Hero is BB with http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/.../smiles/jd.gif, http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/.../smiles/jc.gif.
<font color="red">UTG raises to $4</font>, <font color="grey">1 fold</font>, CO calls $4, Button calls $4, <font color="grey">1 fold</font>, <font color="red">Hero raises to $16</font>, UTG folds, CO calls $12, Button calls $12.

Flop: ($52.50) http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/.../smiles/qs.gif, http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/.../smiles/3d.gif, http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/.../smiles/2s.gif <font color="grey">(3 players)</font>
Hero checks, CO checks, Button checks.

Turn: ($52.50) http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/.../smiles/8h.gif [color=#0000FF](3 players)</font>
Hero checks, CO checks, <font color="red">Button bets $26</font>, Hero folds, CO folds.

Final Pot: $52.50 <font color="red"> </font> [

InsideEdge 11-27-2007 10:03 AM

Re: NL100 --> JJ in RR-pot OOP ... 3way after 4way preflop action ...
 
Dont mind pf or flop.

I bet the turn for value/protection here. If someone calls i most likely check/fold river.

Suigin406 11-27-2007 10:05 AM

Re: NL100 --> JJ in RR-pot OOP ... 3way after 4way preflop action ...
 
meh, i usually don't repop UTG, but with the dead money, fine...

i can't check both flop and turn here, ur asking to have the pot taken away

el_gringo 11-27-2007 03:46 PM

Re: NL100 --> JJ in RR-pot OOP ... 3way after 4way preflop action ...
 
I think check flop is good against two opponents.
But bet turn or at least call the button.

shpanko 11-27-2007 05:05 PM

Re: NL100 --> JJ in RR-pot OOP ... 3way after 4way preflop action ...
 
If you check the turn I think you need to c/c

Parsy 11-27-2007 05:13 PM

Re: NL100 --> JJ in RR-pot OOP ... 3way after 4way preflop action ...
 
i bet the flop as you arent too worried about the cutoff, and i definitely woudn't worry about the button as he has shown no real strength pre. If not defninitely fire the turn.

As played, i definitely check call the turn.

nazahl 11-27-2007 05:17 PM

Re: NL100 --> JJ in RR-pot OOP ... 3way after 4way preflop action ...
 
button would have bet a queen on the flop most times yeah?

seems like a pretty easy turn call.

Dr_Doctr 11-27-2007 05:17 PM

Re: NL100 --> JJ in RR-pot OOP ... 3way after 4way preflop action ...
 
Flop is fine but bet the turn and then shut down to resistance - and as played you need to call the river as others have said. If I'm raising this preflop I like 18-20.

King Car 11-27-2007 05:18 PM

Re: NL100 --> JJ in RR-pot OOP ... 3way after 4way preflop action ...
 
With 52bbs in the pot and a flush draw out there, I like betting this flop. If CO wants to make a move, he has two make into to two opponents.

Also, our 19/15 called cc two pre-flop raises so I think his range is somewhat weighted to a mid pp.

As played, I like c/c turn as opposed to c/f.

bilbo-san 11-27-2007 06:07 PM

Re: NL100 --> JJ in RR-pot OOP ... 3way after 4way preflop action ...
 
Button is betting basically any pair here, and bluffing sometimes.

Rarely 22,33, or a Q (he bets flop with the spades), rarely 88 (he'd bet more like $35). Rarely QQ+ for obvious reasons.


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