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Romulet 11-17-2007 09:35 AM

Defending BB vs Raise and then cold calls
 
Anybody got any ranges for defending the bb vs a raise and then a cold caller or two?

I have been playing the following vs 1 raise and 1 caller is it too loose?

Are the A2o-A7o and K2o-K8o range too reverse implied odds for these situations?
Ax, Kx, q9o+, J9o+, t9o+, any 2 suited.

When 1 raise and 2 callers adding 87o and t8o.

Any hands to add or take away?

Does the K2o-K8o and A2o-A7o range suffer too much here?

vmacosta 11-17-2007 08:31 PM

Re: Defending BB vs Raise and then cold calls
 
It's hard to say for sure without a ridiculous amount of hands, but I'd guess you are overvaluing the big-little hands and undervaluing the smaller offsuit connectors.

The position of the raiser matters a lot--the closer to utg, the less hands you should defend.

BryanC 11-17-2007 09:08 PM

Re: Defending BB vs Raise and then cold calls
 
really depends alot on the exact situation but I don't like to play many unconnected offsuit cards multi way especially weak offsuit aces and kings. In general suited and/or connected cards are worth far more in the situation you describe. Really depends alot on how aggro they are post flop and the position of the raiser etc

rzk 11-18-2007 12:29 AM

Re: Defending BB vs Raise and then cold calls
 
i don't exactly know how loose or tight in general your range is but it's certainly very unbalanced. i'm pretty sure K2o will win much less than 87o in this spot.

fwiw, if, say the co opens and the button calls, i always fold K2o-K8o, A2o-A5o and often fold even more Ax and Kx hands. i think that's roughly in line with stox's recommendations.


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