Rejam on squeeze? Tilt 30r.
 

Open raiser is quote loose aggressive, i have him at 29/17 over 110 hands.

SB is yoshdog22, an aggro regular i have at 19/15 over 95.

Is AJ to thin (i'm def rejamming AQ here) or are you digging?

Full Tilt Poker
No Limit Holdem Tournament
Blinds: t150/t300
(Ante: t25)
8 players
Converter

Stack sizes:
UTG: t15830
UTG+1: t21176
MP1: t9352
MP2: t11438
Hero: t14715
Button: t13474
SB: t25185
BB: t12907

Pre-flop: (8 players) Hero is CO with J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]
3 folds, <font color="#cc0000">MP2 raises to t900</font>, Hero calls t900 <font color="aaaaaa">(pot was t1550)</font>, Button folds, <font color="#cc0000">SB raises to t4100</font>, 2 folds, <font color="#cc0000">Hero raises all-in t14690</font>

Re: Rejam on squeeze? Tilt 30r.
 

At first glance, I didn't like it.

But then I realized why I really don't like it: MP2 is too short. If MP2 jams, then SB has to call. Thus, making me believe that SB has a real hand.

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i think the SB is raise is a little big for it to be a pure squeeze, i think your getting called here a lot. id be more apt to shove on a 3600T raise from him. I don't know, i always think people are more likely to have something like AK or AQ or JJ when they hit the pot button or whatever.

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id do it with AQ but I really don't like it with AJ, esp since his raise is a little on the big side

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me no like. Basically, you're just trying to rep aces here where you smooth called to trap. I don't think most people believe you enough to fold better hands. I really don't think you're AJ is good here if you're thinking he's trying to squeeze. His raise is too big, and it looks like he wants mp2 to put it in. I'm thinking AK here. You gave away the strength of your hand by calling pre, now you have to give it up.

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This looks awful. Looks like you have no FE and are well behind his range.

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This looks awful. Looks like you have no FE and are well behind his range.

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K last time i do that then.

What are peoples thoughts with AQ?

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I was at the table, remember the hand and the chat that took place afterwards. Fold to the original raise, def. fold to the squeeze. Not being results oriented (since I know what he had) I think this raise by Yosh looks like TT+,AK, and maybe AQ or 99 sometimes. Even if he has AQ he has you crushed, and I doubt he ever has A10 or worse.

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I think this is a marginal spot, I agree with your OP that AQ is a definite jam here. MP2 is super laggy and opened for only 8% of his stack, it's not like he's within 100 miles of being pot committed, so it's an ideal spot for SB to squeeze. SB's raise size is standard, I don't think he could put in a raise (other than some goofy min-raise) that wouldn't commit him to call a jam from MP2, so I wouldn't draw any conclusions from it. (I think drawing conclusions from whether a 3bet leaves the other player in the hand with FE is generally a mistake, since players who think about those types of things will give the appearance of the other player having FE both when he does and when he doesn't, and you'd have to watch a player a very long time to determine whether he had a tendency to do more of one vs. the other).

The call pre is also marginal, the stack depths are right on the edge of where you can play a hand like this profitably in position. The more aggro the Villain, the deeper the stacks need to be.

I probably would have played it like you did, I don't think it's a significant mistake to do so, but it wouldn't be a significant mistake to fold to the first bet or the squeeze either.

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I feel like people don't squeeze in these spots that often and you're going to see AK/TT+ a lot. Unless you have a specific read that he is squeezing here, then I'd muck AQ.

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I feel like people don't squeeze in these spots that often and you're going to see AK/TT+ a lot. Unless you have a specific read that he is squeezing here, then I'd muck AQ.

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AQ is a fold too. It fares similarly against opponents range.

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Wow, i'm a spew tard.

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Squeezing a loose opener with a very tight range, and calling squeezes with a very tight range, which is what everyone is saying is the current state of the art online, is not a stable equilibrium. If people are only calling squeezes of loose openers with super tight ranges (and folding AQ is super, super tight), then squeezing ATC in spots like this is going to be hugely profitable. At some point an equilibrium has to be reached where the squeezing range is optimal against the opening and calling ranges, and vice versa. At this equilibrium, there is no way that folding AQ is the right thing to do. But if in fact people are only squeezing against a loose opener with {TT+,AK}, which is really surprising since it is so suboptimal (especially given the supertight squeeze calling ranges), then I guess folding AQ is right.

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I def prefer folding or 3-betting the first time around and hate the push.

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bond, what went into deciding to flat with aj here instead of 3-betting?

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bond, what went into deciding to flat with aj here instead of 3-betting?

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b/c ur bluffing

Re: Rejam on squeeze? Tilt 30r.
 

I like the flat call first time around. I would only 3-bet if MP2 was raising extremely wide.