contemplating a bluff, semi-deep
 

villain is 22/18/2.5 over a very large mined/played sample. 3bets me a LOT in position without a ton of regard to opening position/donks behind in the blinds who could coldcall/etc. i am not positive about the last statement, but his frequencies suggest it. i try to return the favor a bit but am generally tamer pre and prefer to play postflop.

i run at 23/20/5 and he should have me at around that.

this is our first multistreet confrontation in a 3bet pot against him. we have not felted yet in a 3b pot. he has never seen me get caught making a huge bluff or get away with what is probably a bluff.

so:
1) if he checks, how much?
2) what range of river bet sizes may i shove over?

No-Limit Hold'em, $4 BB (6 handed)

UTG ($621.70)
MP ($300)
CO ($1155.90)
Hero ($604.90)
SB ($433.50)
BB ($754.60)

Preflop: Hero is Button with Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">CO raises to $14</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $48</font>, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, CO calls $34.

Flop: ($102) T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
CO checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $63</font>, CO calls $63.

Turn: ($228) 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
CO checks, Hero checks.

River: ($228) K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>

Re: contemplating a bluff, semi-deep
 

Why would you bet after he checks? You have the best hand a decent amount (straight draws missed and small pairs counterfeited), but few better hands will fold.

Re: contemplating a bluff, semi-deep
 

because i think he folds jacks and nines enough of the time? probably not queens, but he'll fold 99/JJ since i would valuebet QQ here (i am pretty sure he knows i am smart enough to do this, also)

Re: contemplating a bluff, semi-deep
 

bet like 150-175 to a check. i think you should have some decent FE v. many hands, might be nice for meta in future/etc.

Re: contemplating a bluff, semi-deep
 

Betting is pretty bad here.

Re: contemplating a bluff, semi-deep
 

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Re: contemplating a bluff, semi-deep
 

checking seems criminal to me. You have to balance the times you vbet a king here with the times you bluff

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checking seems criminal to me. You have to balance the times you vbet a king here with the times you bluff

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checking seems criminal to me. You have to balance the times you vbet a king here with the times you bluff

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