K9o in the SB..
 

Folds around to me in the SB

with K [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]9 [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]

:::K9 isn't awesome, but better than a random hand. So I raise:::

Blinds 50/100
Hero has ~1800
HERO raises to 300
BB calls

flop 8 [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]8 [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]7 [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]
::: Should I continue bet here? what's your plan?:::
HERO bets 400 into a 600 pot
villian calls

turn is K [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]
:::Yea, I'm behind an eight, but ahead of any pocket pair so I shove:::

HERO shoves for ~ pot size bet

Tear it apart...What do you think of this hand?

Re: K9o in the SB..
 

any read on the villian?
is he loose or tight?

Re: K9o in the SB..
 

villain flat called your correct flop bet. you are way ahead or way behind on turn. now you have a hand so now it is correct to check.

Re: K9o in the SB..
 

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villain flat called your correct flop bet. you are way ahead or way behind on turn. now you have a hand so now it is correct to check.

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i'm not opposing your view, i understand it for sure.
how big of a bet do you call on the turn? 1/2 pot, 3/4 pot, pot, all-in? i'm just asking b/c if you're folding to most bets, then you're folding the best hands many times i think.

Re: K9o in the SB..
 

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villain flat called your correct flop bet. you are way ahead or way behind on turn. now you have a hand so now it is correct to check.

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but not fold to a bet.

Re: K9o in the SB..
 

I would pass on this PF with an M of 12. Just not playable IMO. But, I would check the flop, jam the turn since there is so much in the pot already.

Re: K9o in the SB..
 

Folding K9o in the SB is too tight but I'd be interested to know if there was a plan if villain shoved.
As played I'm just about in agreement with its WA/WB enough to check turn (assuming we're never intending to fold) There are some draws...I don't think quite enough to make me feel the need to bet.

Re: K9o in the SB..
 

I could be wrong but think shoving pre flop is +EV.

I prefer the 3XBB bet though.

On flop I would tend not to c bet, but just try a CR all in to represent an 8.
This seems to work at the 4/180s anyway.

Once you c bet and he calls you're pretty much committed IMO so I would also shove, maybe a 7 or smaller pair calls.

What about image - any chance he think's you're bluffing the whole way through?